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Meeting of the Parliament 17 June 2015

17 Jun 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Community Empowerment (Scotland) Bill

The Parliament’s consideration of the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Bill has been a long and detailed process and many important points have been raised. I, too, thank the clerks and everybody else who has been involved with it, and the committees.

I have always agreed with the principle of enabling communities to have a greater say in local matters and I welcome provisions to facilitate that. However, I am concerned that there are a number of areas in which the bill may still allow central decisions to take precedence over local priorities, and those worries cannot be passed over. Members will be more than aware that many amendments have been considered. I will not have time to analyse each of them, but I think that it is worth touching on some of the most prescient points that have been raised.

Our central aim has always been to ensure that the bill will genuinely delegate decision making so that members of the public can benefit from local flexibility and autonomy and will not be subject to the whims of the Scottish Government. The extent to which that aim will be realised will come down to two factors. The first is the breadth and strength of directions that are imposed on communities and local authorities from central Government, and the second is the extent to which the procedures contain the necessary safeguards to ensure that any community that wishes to become involved in local decision making has a reasonable chance of doing so.

As a case in point, the interaction between part 1 of the bill, on national outcomes, and part 2, on community planning, raises concerns that local priorities may be overshadowed by national decisions. That is particularly true as each community planning partnership must have regard to guidance that is issued by Scottish ministers. I agree with efforts to encourage community participation in the development of local outcomes improvement plans, but I still think that the Parliament and public officials across Scotland would do well to ensure that local priorities are the driving force.

On a similar note, I wish to focus on the bill’s provisions on allotments, because they have raised concerns about local autonomy. In particular, the provisions that require the Scottish Government’s consent for a local authority to change the use of an allotment site could, if they are used in a certain way, obstruct local decision making for national reasons. That is plainly contrary to the principle of facilitating local empowerment. If power is truly to be devolved from the centre, local authorities should be able to decide for themselves whether changing the use of an allotment site is in the local interest, subject of course to reasonable protections.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-13523, in the name of Marco Biagi, on the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Bill. Before I invite the mini...
The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Communities and Pensioners’ Rights (Alex Neil) SNP
For the purposes of rule 9.11 of the standing orders, I advise Parliament that Her Majesty, having been informed of the purport of the Community Empowerment ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Many thanks. We can now begin the debate. 19:02
The Minister for Local Government and Community Empowerment (Marco Biagi) SNP
I have not emptied a room this quickly since I got up to do karaoke at the party conference. I thank the members of all parties who have contributed today a...
Michael Russell (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) SNP
I thank the minister for allowing that to happen for one particular community in my constituency: the community of south Cowal. The minister was very helpful...
Marco Biagi SNP
Michael Russell will be very glad to have put that on the record, and I am certainly happy to put on record my support for communities that wish to take up t...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab) Lab
Will the minister give way?
Marco Biagi SNP
In a moment. To help with our move towards participation and empowerment, at stage 2 we put a new power in the bill that will require all public bodies to p...
Malcolm Chisholm Lab
During consideration of amendments I raised a point about arm’s-length external organisations, which I believe are not mentioned in the bill. Will the minist...
Marco Biagi SNP
Yes. I noticed the omission and I was going to come back to it in my closing remarks. I am happy to answer that question right now. ALEOs are not listed in s...
Alex Salmond (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
The community right-to-buy process has evolved over the past few years and the bill takes it much further than it has been before. However, there is nothing ...
Marco Biagi SNP
Yes. That takes me back to the discussion that I had with Alex Fergusson on amendments regarding communities of interest. In this bill we are allowing the tr...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I echo the minister’s comments and thank all those who have given an incredible amount of time, energy and support to enable us to scrutinise the bill and, I...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
Before I call Cameron Buchanan, I make the Parliament aware that the Presiding Officer has determined that decision time will take place at 8.15 tonight. Tha...
Cameron Buchanan (Lothian) (Con) Con
The Parliament’s consideration of the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Bill has been a long and detailed process and many important points have been raised. ...
John Wilson (Central Scotland) (Ind) Ind
Will the member clarify the position with regard to local authority decision making about the closure of allotment sites and input by the community and allot...
Cameron Buchanan Con
I do not think that it is clear in the bill that that is the case. That is my concern. It has not been specified. Unfortunately, I think that amendments t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
You should draw to a close, please.
Cameron Buchanan Con
I hope that members across the chamber will join us in committing to uphold the principles of community empowerment. 19:26
Clare Adamson (Central Scotland) (SNP) SNP
It has been a very interesting afternoon in the chamber, with lots of topics being raised regarding the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Bill. I absolutely b...
Marco Biagi SNP
I just want to say that I know how the member feels.
Clare Adamson SNP
We had a wide-ranging debate this afternoon that went from the minutiae of allotment sizes to a philosophical conundrum from my colleague Rob Gibson, who ask...
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Land reform is, of course, a continuum. Scottish Labour has contributed robustly to that process and will continue to do so beyond today. The Community Empo...
Rob Gibson (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) SNP
It is a pleasure to reach this stage in the passage of the bill, given the huge amount of ground that Kevin Stewart’s committee and my committee have covered...
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
Let me start with Rob Gibson’s point about best value. The usual question that is asked about any legislation is whether it makes a difference and is seen to...
John Wilson (Central Scotland) (Ind) Ind
I draw attention to my entry in the register of interests because I have had a particular interest in community empowerment for a number of years. I was remi...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
When we debated the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Bill at stage 1 on 3 February this year, I pointed out that the unifying theme in legislation is trust: ...
Alex Rowley (Cowdenbeath) (Lab) Lab
First, I congratulate and say well done to the Local Government and Regeneration Committee. I absolutely associate myself with all John Wilson’s comments. I ...
Alex Fergusson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
We are almost at the culmination of a long process that, as we heard, has involved several parliamentary committees and a vast array of witnesses, stakeholde...
Ken Macintosh (Eastwood) (Lab) Lab
It has been a long day and a tiring day but, I hope, a very worthwhile one. For those of us who believe whole-heartedly in devolution and in the principles o...