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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 03 June 2015

03 Jun 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Nursery Vouchers
Smith, Liz Con Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

That is only half the story. Registrations also include children on waiting lists, and they could be on more than one list. Those children do not have the entitlement that they deserve. Registration figures are not an accurate reflection of demand.

Statistics from the fair funding for our kids group, which has spoken to the First Minister about the issue, show that 29 out of 32 local authorities have registrations of three-year-olds that are more than 100 per cent, which tells us that there is a serious problem.

In the 47 partnership nurseries in Glasgow, 873 children out of 1,608 eligible children received their entitlement. In West Lothian, in 23 partnership nurseries only 335 children out of 673 eligible children had their funding. Those statistics, which have been compiled extremely methodically by parents groups, tell quite a lot about the story.

The Scottish Government faces criticism from local authorities, which are clear that they do not have enough money to make the necessary provision for the additional places because the fatal mistake has been made of thinking that costs rise in the same proportion as the additional hours provided. That is incorrect. The local authorities say that the Scottish Government fails to recognise the need for additional staff and infrastructure. They point out that, from August 2015, the definition of a vulnerable two-year-old will change. There is therefore no chance that local authorities will fulfil their statutory duties as set out in paragraph 159 of guidance on the Children and Young People (Scotland) Act 2014, which says:

“Annual incremental increases in funding from the Scottish Government will enable education authorities to increase flexibility and choice on an annual basis.”

That is simply not happening. It has an added detrimental effect, which is that, because many providers are not receiving as much money as they need from the local authority, they are pushing up the costs for the privately funded hours, making it more expensive for parents and, in some cases, defeating the purpose of the policy.

While we are on the subject of choice, can we deal with the myth that private nurseries are making a profit? They most certainly are not. What they are in the business of doing is providing the additional flexibility that state nurseries cannot; for example, they are often open for longer hours and they offer holiday cover. Let us also remember that some families using childminders and nannies are unable to access free hours at all.

However, the real issue for parents is the restriction of choice. East Dunbartonshire Council, East Lothian Council and Glasgow City Council have all restricted the number of places that they fund in partnership nurseries, which means that many parents have had to move their children from one nursery to another if they can no longer get a funded place at the existing nursery. That is why many parents believe that thousands of children are missing out on provision because local authority nurseries are unable to provide suitable hours for working parents. This was a flagship policy before the referendum, but it is some flagship if thousands of children are not getting that entitlement.

There is a marked variation throughout Scotland in the allocation process, which means that parents are often open to a lottery. Local authorities purchase partnership places using different procurement processes, set against different criteria. In Glasgow, for example, geographical lots are drawn that give the most places to nurseries that have the highest rating, which is 5. That has the potential to be a good thing if it drives up standards, but it is not a good thing if the same practice is not applied to other nurseries. It could mean that very good nurseries that receive a rating of 4—which is pretty good, but not quite a 5—in an area of the city with a high number of successful nurseries will lose out. That system is unfair. It comes back to the evidence that has been provided by many parents.

Those issues combined make the current funding arrangements restrictive and unfair. They are happening at the same time as the Scottish Government persists in its perverse logic, which denies all children born in the winter months the same nursery provision that is afforded to those born in the summer months. When the First Minister was questioned on that at First Minister’s question time back in November, she said that her commitment to ensuring that level of childcare was “real, genuine and strong”. So far, however, nothing has happened, so that was patently disingenuous. There is absolutely no equitable defence of that birthday discrimination, and I ask the Scottish Government to have a look at it.

Many times, there has been consensual agreement in this Parliament about the importance of the early years and, therefore, of the policies that surround them. However, we need to translate warm words and manifesto commitments into reality. It is patently clear at the moment that we have the warm words, but we are very far away from a workable policy that would allow all children to access their entitlement. Not for the first time in this Parliament, members have rejected a Scottish Conservative policy simply because it contains the word “voucher”, but let us be clear about the motion. It reflects exactly what is happening in the City of Edinburgh Council, whereby activation of a code given to a parent by the council allows the parent to access the necessary care. It is a virtual voucher, if you like, and it works because it allows the money to follow the child. That model has been patented by an SNP/Labour-led council, so I hope that it will not be rejected on the ground of any dogma or ideology.

The Scottish Conservatives see this as a hugely significant issue—indeed, we will make it a priority manifesto commitment for 2016. Parents must have choice and the system must have the flexibility to deliver the entitlement that has been promised by the Scottish Government.

I move,

That the Parliament notes the recent survey by the Family and Childcare Trust, which stated that fewer than one in six councils in Scotland had enough childcare capacity to meet the needs of working parents; recognises that most council-run nurseries do not provide the flexibility needed by working parents; believes that, in order to help more parents remain in, or re-enter, the workforce, parents need to be able to take up their child’s nursery entitlement at an establishment offering hours that fit in with their working patterns; welcomes the Scottish Government’s pledge to give every three and four-year-old 600 hours of government-funded nursery provision, but is concerned that too many parents are unable to access their entitlement due to the hours or location on offer from local authorities, and therefore calls on the Scottish Government to introduce greater flexibility into the system through a virtual childcare voucher to ensure that all children in Scotland are guaranteed their entitlement by allowing parents to use any nursery that meets Education Scotland’s and the Care Inspectorate’s standards.

16:01  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-13312, in the name of Liz Smith, on nursery vouchers. Unfortunately we have already had to inform a membe...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
On 20 November last year, in her first First Minister’s question time, Nicola Sturgeon gave a very firm commitment that her door would always be “open for se...
Bob Doris (Glasgow) (SNP) SNP
The member may be aware that Glasgow City Council runs a nursery application management system, which registers any child at a partnership nursery where ther...
Liz Smith Con
That is only half the story. Registrations also include children on waiting lists, and they could be on more than one list. Those children do not have the en...
The Minister for Children and Young People (Fiona McLeod) SNP
I welcome this timely debate, which comes only 10 months after the commencement of the Government’s huge commitment to 600 hours of early learning and childc...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I very much welcome the steps that the minister has outlined. She will be aware that, although the Liberal Democrats welcome the move in relation to disadvan...
Fiona McLeod SNP
Mr McArthur knows, from our debate in committee yesterday, that the extension to 15 per cent of two-year-olds last year targeted the children of parents who ...
Liz Smith Con
I have listened carefully to the minister. She recently provided a response to my written question in which she said that the model on which the Government’s...
Fiona McLeod SNP
I refer Liz Smith to that parliamentary answer. She is right that we took our work from last year with the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities and our p...
Cara Hilton (Dunfermline) (Lab) Lab
Transforming childcare is certainly one of the most important challenges that we face. As a mum of three young children, it is an issue close to my heart, so...
Fiona McLeod SNP
I do not deny that we do not yet have full flexibility in the system, but does Ms Hilton agree that we are 10 months into what is a huge programme of improve...
Cara Hilton Lab
Yes, but we are talking about a pledge that was made back in 2007, so the Government has had plenty of time to get things right. The reality is that parents ...
Liz Smith Con
Will the member give way?
Cara Hilton Lab
Yes.
Liz Smith Con
Does the member accept that that is exactly what is happening in the Labour and Scottish National Party-led City of Edinburgh Council? Does she support that?
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
You are approaching your final minute, Ms Hilton.
Cara Hilton Lab
That may well be the case, but the concept of vouchers for public services could be a slippery slope. More discussion is necessary. It is certainly not an id...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We come to the open debate. We are very tight for time, so speeches should be of four minutes. 16:14
Bob Doris (Glasgow) (SNP) SNP
First of all, I should say that I have met the fair funding for our kids campaign on a number of occasions and have engaged directly with many of the issues ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Mr Doris, could you move your microphone up? I am having difficulty hearing you.
Bob Doris SNP
That is not something that I am usually told, Presiding Officer. I am happy to speak louder. There have been significant and profound advances in childcare ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
You are in your final minute.
Bob Doris SNP
There is a concern that local authorities—in this instance, Glasgow—would sometimes rather see a local authority nursery place sit empty in order to save cas...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Could you draw to a close, please?
Bob Doris SNP
I will, Presiding Officer. My point is that vouchers are not the way to go, because the funding should always follow the child. However, we have to increase ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I am sorry, but you must close.
Bob Doris SNP
—we can do it right across Scotland.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I am afraid that I will have to cut members off if they do not keep to their four minutes. 16:18
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I thank Mary Scanlon for her very generous remarks in the previous debate about Charles Kennedy, following his sudden and untimely death. He was a gifted pol...
James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) SNP
Over the past months, I have seen a considerable number of parents who have been upset and disheartened by the way that Glasgow City Council has dealt with t...