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Public Petitions Committee 31 March 2015

31 Mar 2015 · S4 · Public Petitions Committee
Item of business
New Petitions
Disabled-friendly Housing (PE1554)
Stephan Thomson Watch on SPTV
I live in a house that is supposed to be wheelchair adapted, but it is actually just a wheelchair-friendly house. As for the point that Jacq Kelly made about doors and things being wide enough, with my chair I cannot move freely on my own in my home. I cannot turn 360° in my hallway or wear my footplates in my hallway to get in and out of the front door, which causes problems. I had to get my front door adapted to an electric door simply because it had a lip on it. Basically, I had to take a run at it to get into the house because there was a drop. Before I had my door put in, I actually fell out of my power chair and landed on the concrete. It took a long time, speaking with the council, to get a new door put in. It helped when that was done, but that is only one point. Jacq Kelly also talked about the cost of patients being in hospital and things like that. I could tell you about a few occasions when I have fallen in my home because I have not had the right grab rails or things like that to be able to balance and transfer from A to B—say, out of my chair to my couch. I cannot walk, obviously. At one point, I fell on the floor and I ended up spending 13 hours waiting for one of my family members to come and find me. I had no access to my mobile phone, or a phone of any kind, so I had to lie there and wait for someone to come and get me. Eventually, I had to have a call button put in, but I ask you to think about the time that it takes for someone to respond. You have to wait for them to come and help you and, even if they come, they have to wait for an ambulance or people who are trained to lift you, which also costs money. If you end up in hospital, it can have a knock-on effect: not only does it cost more money for rehabilitation and the hospital stay, depending on what injuries you get, but you feel helpless because you have to depend on other people, which takes away your independence. You feel trapped because you are not able to get up on your own whereas, if you had a house that was designed for your wheelchair in the first place, you could cut down on the costs. My house is nice but it is not a wheelchair house. The authorities said that it was wheelchair friendly. It does not have the right equipment in it. I have only once been assessed by an occupational therapist. That takes me on to my third point, which is about my bathroom. Let us imagine that there was a doorway behind you and you needed to go to the bathroom but could not shut the bathroom door because there was not enough room in the bathroom for you and your wheelchair. You could not shut the bathroom door when your friends were in. We would all sit here and you would have to go to the bathroom but not close the door. That is against human rights. The house is just too small. The doorways are not designed for a wheelchair. No OTs have come to examine the bathroom with a view to adapting it because there is not enough space. It is not a wet room. A couple of grab rails were put in and that was it. I have never seen an OT since then. It is a big point that I cannot go to the bathroom in privacy in my own home, which should be designed for a wheelchair user. I have a friend whose house is adapted for her chair and it is possible to go into her bathroom and close the door, whereas my house is not adapted. It is to do with finances and money. The authorities do not have the money to adapt the house or make the changes that they need to, which cuts my quality of life. I have had to ask my friends to leave simply so that I can go to the bathroom, which I should not have to do.

In the same item of business

The Convener Lab
The final new petition is PE1554, by Jacq Kelly, on behalf of Leonard Cheshire Disability, on improving the provision of disabled-friendly housing. Members h...
Jacq Kelly (Leonard Cheshire Disability)
Our petition calls on the Scottish Government to make lifetime home standards the standard for ordinary builds and for 10 per cent of those builds to be whee...
Stephan Thomson
I live in a house that is supposed to be wheelchair adapted, but it is actually just a wheelchair-friendly house. As for the point that Jacq Kelly made about...
Jacq Kelly
Stephan is talking about cost. The estimated cost of one hip fracture caused by somebody falling over is £28,000, which puts the £1,100 cost of adaptation in...
Stephan Thomson
It is true that, when you are in a wheelchair, the hallways and doors in a house are not wide enough and you end up damaging your property because you bash i...
The Convener Lab
I thank Jacq Kelly for her presentation and Stephan Thomson for highlighting some of his personal difficulties and experiences with his house. Do members hav...
David Torrance SNP
Good morning. I fully support your petition. Should local authorities play a greater role when replacing existing council housing with accessible new builds?...
Jacq Kelly
Definitely. We are finding that councils need to be compelled to do that, because they are not doing it. There are two things to mention. First, we have fou...
John Wilson Ind
Good morning. Ms Kelly, you mentioned accessible homes, but the definition of accessible can vary widely. Stephan Thomson gave a good example. His house woul...
Jacq Kelly
In the campaign that we at Leonard Cheshire are running, we have spoken about disabled-friendly houses, which are different from accessible homes. Stephan Th...
John Wilson Ind
Have you had any discussions with house builders? In such debates, we usually end up talking about council or housing association provision but not getting i...
Jacq Kelly
We have had no such discussions yet, but we have pinpointed two private house builders that are building disabled-friendly homes out of choice because they s...
Angus MacDonald SNP
The petition strikes me as one of the most commonsense petitions to have come before the committee since I joined it. I was interested to hear the comments a...
Jacq Kelly
We are not falling over those examples, to be honest with you. On your point about the building standards, I was looking at the handbook this morning. It is...
The Convener Lab
I see that there are no other questions from members. In that case, what action is the committee prepared to take?
Kenny MacAskill SNP
We should write to the Government. As Angus MacDonald said, a lot of this is common sense. If action was taken to ensure that walls are capable of taking gra...
David Torrance SNP
I agree. It was mentioned that two companies—one in Fife and one in Glasgow—are building disabled-friendly homes. We should write to them, as it would be int...
Jacq Kelly
Stephan Thomson wants to make a point about good practice that he knows about.
Stephan Thomson
A friend of mine has a house that is designed for wheelchairs. I have been into her home, which is an absolutely amazing house. All the kitchen units and wor...
David Torrance SNP
Could we write to all the local authorities to see what percentage of new-build housing is disabled friendly?
The Convener Lab
Yes. Before we return to the action points, I have a question for Jacq Kelly. What is the least disabled-friendly housing? Is it new builds or old housing, o...
Jacq Kelly
They are probably both still the same, although that might depend on where people are. I imagine that, in an old city such as Edinburgh, the old builds are p...
The Convener Lab
Colleagues, do we agree to write to the Scottish Government, Local Authority Building Standards Scotland, the Lifetime Homes foundation and the Convention of...
John Wilson Ind
I suggest that we also write to Homes for Scotland, as the trade body for house builders, and to the Scottish Federation of Housing Associations, as the body...
The Convener Lab
I have just been advised that, if we write to all the local authorities, there will be no requirement to write to COSLA. Do colleagues agree to take the appr...
The Convener Lab
I thank Jacq Kelly and Stephan Thomson for attending. Meeting closed at 11:16.