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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 26 February 2015

26 Feb 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Commission on Local Tax Reform
Biagi, Marco SNP Edinburgh Central Watch on SPTV

It is “linked”, but I said that it

“does not in a substantive sense adhere”

to the fourth principle. There is a linkage, but it could be greater.

The 1992 act hardwired in a lack of progressivity. Band H properties have greater liability than band D properties, but their value is at least four times that of band D properties while their liability is just twice that of band D properties. Therefore, it is clear that there is a limit to how close the link is. The values are based on the situation in 1991 and no account has been taken of subsequent changes in relative prices, so areas that have not benefited from house price increases have not seen their council tax bills become lower than those that had a bit of a boom.

The council tax valuation bands mean that there is no differentiation among properties that are in the same band. As with the late and unlamented stamp duty, there is a slabbing effect that penalises properties whose value brings them just into a higher band and no more by charging them the same as properties that are near the top of the band.

Even looking at the banding should raise concern. Some 74 per cent—almost three quarters—of properties are in bands A, B, C and D, and only one in 200 is in band H. It is all based on the assumption—which has been the subject of many debates in Parliament over many years—that the best way of assessing an individual’s ability to pay is by looking at the value of their home.

Since 2008, we have been addressing the worst failings of that flawed system by delivering funding to local government that has enabled all councils to freeze the council tax. With the continuing agreement of all councils in Scotland, that freeze is about to run for the eighth consecutive year. The cumulative saving over the 2008-09 to 2014-15 period for band D households amounts to more than £900 per household. We estimate that that will rise to about £1,200 by 2015-16.

Before the introduction of the freeze, the average council tax per dwelling increased by more than 50 per cent between 1997-98 and 2007-08. That was not just far beyond inflation; it was financially crippling for certain types of household—for example, pensioner households—that were dependent on a modest fixed income, but still earned a little too much to qualify for council tax benefit. For many, there was real fear in awaiting the annual council tax letter dropping through the letterbox onto the doormat. Now, that at least is no longer the case.

In addition, with our local government partners, we stepped in when the United Kingdom Government abolished council tax benefit to ensure that vital reliefs could continue. The council tax reduction scheme, which Gavin Brown kindly introduced to the debate, affords people targeted relief from council tax liability. At its peak, it applied to more than 550,000 people in Scotland. That corresponded to £360 million of support in that year and covered 22 per cent of all households.

We have to contrast that with the approach that is taken in England, where localisation of council tax relief has meant that more than 300 different schemes are being operated, some of which mean that the UK Government’s budget cuts are falling on those who are least able to pay—even more so than the council tax unamended.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-12423, in the name of Marco Biagi, on the commission on local tax reform. 15:00
The Minister for Local Government and Community Empowerment (Marco Biagi) SNP
In looking at tax, we in the Scottish Government base our approach on four principles: efficiency, convenience, certainty and the tax’s being proportionate t...
Gavin Brown (Lothian) (Con) Con
Just a couple of weeks ago in the chamber, John Swinney said, in defending the council tax: “Council tax liability is linked to ability to pay through the c...
Marco Biagi SNP
It is “linked”, but I said that it “does not in a substantive sense adhere” to the fourth principle. There is a linkage, but it could be greater. The 1992...
Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the minister concede that the suggestion that council tax relief was abolished in Scotland is not entirely accurate, that a significant proportion of th...
Marco Biagi SNP
Council tax was a reserved benefit. It was abolished. The funding was devolved with a 10 per cent cut, and we have had to step in and plug that gap. In Engl...
Alex Rowley (Cowdenbeath) (Lab) Lab
Will the minister give way?
Marco Biagi SNP
I need to make some progress. Perhaps with the exception of the Conservatives, we all recognise that the present system, as defined in an act that was passe...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
I call Alex Rowley to speak to and move amendment S4M-12423.1. Mr Rowley, you have 9 minutes. 15:13
Alex Rowley (Cowdenbeath) (Lab) Lab
Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. I was a bit concerned when I heard the minister starting off his speech by saying that we were going to have the debat...
Gavin Brown Con
I am grateful to Alex Rowley for giving way. Is it his view that the commission will not come up with recommendations?
Alex Rowley Lab
The commission may choose to advise on the benefits and merits of each of the different options that it considers. If it provides an informative report outli...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
Will Alex Rowley give way?
Alex Rowley Lab
Yes.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I am sorry, Mr Stewart, but the member is in his last minute.
Alex Rowley Lab
I am sorry—that is right. The point is that having the new commission look at local taxation in isolation will not be the panacea for all the local governme...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Yes, please.
Alex Rowley Lab
The reason why that is so important is that local government does something every day that Parliament does not do. Every day, local authorities throughout Sc...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
We take your point.
Alex Rowley Lab
In all those areas, local government is key. It is far too important—
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
You must close, please.
Alex Rowley Lab
—for us not to get the answers. That is why we will support the motion as amended today. I move amendment S4M-12423.1, to insert after “council tax”: “as p...
Gavin Brown (Lothian) (Con) Con
I begin with a degree of surprise after listening to the first two speeches—from the Scottish National Party and Labour—about what exactly the commission wil...
Willie Rennie (Mid Scotland and Fife) (LD) LD
Surely Gavin Brown recognises that it is better to have tried, and perhaps failed and been enlightened, than not to have bothered at all.
Gavin Brown Con
The point is that, based on what the minister said, the commission will not even be trying to make firm recommendations. I am genuinely confused about what t...
Bruce Crawford (Stirling) (SNP) SNP
Can Mr Brown join together an equation that says on the one hand that his group will produce proposals and be independent and on the other hand that it will ...
Gavin Brown Con
Not at all. Like the many commissions that I know Mr Crawford has been involved in and seen, although we have set up the commission, it will operate independ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
We move to the open debate. I call Kevin Stewart, to be followed by Willie Rennie. We are tight for time, so I ask for six-minute speeches, please. 15:28
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
I thank my colleagues on the Local Government and Regeneration Committee for the work that they did on the flexibility and autonomy report. During our delibe...
Gavin Brown Con
That criticism would be fair if we were doing nothing but, given that we have set up our own commission, which will engage extremely widely, surely it is unf...