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Meeting of the Parliament 29 January 2015

29 Jan 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Chilcot Inquiry
McKelvie, Christina SNP Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse Watch on SPTV

The most important keyword in this whole debate is transparency. Why is that? Because there is none. The Westminster establishment has abandoned even a semblance of transparency about this inquiry.

What else could we expect? We have plenty of experience of this in Scotland: the lies so ingeniously spun by the no campaign; the lethal nuclear warheads that pass through our biggest population centre in the depth of night; the cover-up in the 1970s, with private memos revealing the huge amounts of oil in the North Sea that were not shared with Scotland; the rendition flights; the treatment of asylum seekers; and the refusal to allow our ministers to speak in Europe even when the UK minister is absent. I could go on and on.

When this Scottish Parliament was reconvened in 1999, that transparency was a crucial promise to the sovereign people of this country, and it remains the keystone of all that we do in this place. At least this Government will not deceive, will not dissemble and will not lie. We are all the elected representatives of all of our constituents, and we absolutely owe them integrity and honesty in everything that we do. If there are members in the chamber who have not lived up to that demand, I ask them to examine their own consciences and to deliver only the truth.

The Chilcot inquiry, which was set up in 2009, was expected to publish in 2012; it has cost us over £9 million; and to date its output is zero. Some facts have come out, not because of but in spite of the inquiry. We know that 27 lawyers warned Tony Blair that the war was illegal and that he knew that at least two months before the invasion, and UN representatives have made it absolutely clear that there was never a prospect of a majority of members voting in favour of a second resolution. We also know that abusive attacks on President Chirac for his caution were deliberately played up; indeed, President Chirac himself described it as “Soviet-style misinformation”. The Attorney General Lord Goldsmith, the ultimate judge and a Labour loyalist, miraculously changed his mind from illegal to legal, presumably under pressure from George Bush and after spending a day in talks in Washington.

All of this will have been grist in John Chilcot’s grinding mill, but he himself did not expect the mill to grind on for so long. Why are we tolerating this absurd delay? Yes, the inquiry team has done a great deal of work, and it is abundantly clear that the ready access to and co-operation in the corridors of Whitehall that Gordon Brown promised have not been forthcoming. Still, it is nearly 12 years since the invasion took place. There is a limit to the public’s patience and the patience of the families who lost loved ones in this illegal and immoral war. I am talking about the people I have stood with in George Square in silent remembrance with—people like the family of Rose Gentle, her aunt and her daughters, and the people who Kevin Stewart and Willie Rennie mentioned.

It would too be convenient for Tony Blair and several other key figures to keep it all quiet. Mr Blair never wanted the inquiry anyway. It would be convenient to leave a lingering impression that it is all John Chilcot’s fault for taking so long. Convenience serves David Cameron’s case well, too, as he moves towards the general election.

John Chilcot’s report has long passed the stage of acceptable delays regarding the thoroughness of the final product. Even Lord Hurd said that it is “becoming a scandal”. Our own First Minister has described the notion of going into a general election without the report being published in full as “intolerable”.

Like many people, including the families, I want to know why this report is being so conspicuously withheld, apparently by nameless Whitehall mandarins. Chilcot was foolish enough to sign what amounts to a non-disclosure agreement, so he cannot publish without Government approval—so much for his independence. I would like to ask him, “What would happen if you did go ahead, Sir John? What would they do?” I suggest that he should go ahead. Can someone be condemned for telling the truth and being transparent about what we all have the right to know?

It just will not do. We demand the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, not for us but for the families affected, and not after the general election but now. Is that too much to ask? Yes, almost certainly it is when it comes to getting transparency from Westminster, but we will fight for it relentlessly, and I believe that our purpose is sound.

14:36  

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
Good afternoon. The first item of business is a debate on motion S4M-12182, in the name of Nicola Sturgeon, on the Chilcot inquiry.
The First Minister (Nicola Sturgeon) SNP
I begin with a reminder of the gravity of the subject that we are debating. The United States-led and United Kingdom-backed invasion of Iraq in 2003 began wi...
Alex Fergusson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
I do not believe for a minute that the publication date of the Chilcot inquiry’s report is among the top 10 concerns of the Scottish people, but I strongly b...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
We know the history of obstruction and delay. What I am most concerned about is that the delay affects families who have faced the death of their loved ones ...
Alex Fergusson Con
Nor do I, but I do not think that it helps Allan Douglas’s family, or anybody else who has been involved in the process, to publish the report before the due...
Mark McDonald (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP
I am upset that the member seems to think that this is simply about politicians. Kevin Stewart raised the case of the Douglas family, who live in the same co...
Alex Fergusson Con
Not for one minute have I suggested that this is not about people, and I reject the inference. People will be best served by a proper inquiry that has undert...
Kezia Dugdale (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
The Chilcot inquiry report should be published as soon as possible. Today’s motion could have been agreed while saving debating time in the chamber for matte...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will Ms Dugdale give way?
Kezia Dugdale Lab
No, thank you. It has become clear that the Iraqi people were let down by a failure of post-war planning and that the price in lives lost was far too high....
Mark McDonald SNP
Will the member give way?
Kezia Dugdale Lab
No, thank you. It is clear that there is a thirst for democracy across the middle east, but as that has created hope it has uncovered competing interests an...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will Ms Dugdale give way?
Kezia Dugdale Lab
No, thank you. A sustainable peace between the Israeli people and the Palestinian people seems as far off as ever in the region. Petro-economies are struggl...
Mark McDonald SNP
Will the member give way?
Kezia Dugdale Lab
No, thank you. Little wonder world affairs commentators have a new acronym for the region: BAD, which stands for broken, angry and dysfunctional. What matt...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will Ms Dugdale give way?
Kezia Dugdale Lab
No, thank you. Whatever side of the argument we were on 10 years ago, we should all unite around a vision for the middle east with human rights, the rule of...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We now move to the open debate. Speeches should be four minutes long, but we have some time in hand if interventions are taken. 14:22
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Today, the First Minister reminded us of the words that Prime Minister Gordon Brown used when he launched the Chilcot inquiry. He promised that it would help...
Willie Rennie (Mid Scotland and Fife) (LD) LD
This is yet another occasion on which my party and the First Minister’s party have been united on the issue of Iraq. I am sure that she was as disappointed a...
Christina McKelvie (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (SNP) SNP
The most important keyword in this whole debate is transparency. Why is that? Because there is none. The Westminster establishment has abandoned even a sembl...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to contribute to the first Government business debate that Nicola Sturgeon has brought forward as First Minister. As Kezia Dugdale ...
Bruce Crawford (Stirling) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Neil Bibby Lab
Sorry, I do not have time. The people of Iraq cannot afford to have their current needs lost in the discussion of those past mistakes. We know that the conf...
Jim Eadie (Edinburgh Southern) (SNP) SNP
The debate goes to the heart of one of the greatest issues to have faced the United Kingdom in modern times, for there can be no graver decision than that of...
James Kelly (Rutherglen) (Lab) Lab
I support the Government’s motion, and specifically its call for the report to be published as early as possible. However, I agree with the sentiment that so...
Gil Paterson (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
James Kelly Lab
No, thank you.
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will the member give way on that point?