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Meeting of the Parliament 29 January 2015

29 Jan 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Chilcot Inquiry
Rennie, Willie LD Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

This is yet another occasion on which my party and the First Minister’s party have been united on the issue of Iraq. I am sure that she was as disappointed as I was when the Scottish Parliament voted for the invasion of Iraq. I was proud that we stood together against the majority, because we knew our position was the right one. We stood together then just like we are standing together today.

It is a shame that the delays that have characterised the Iraq inquiry were also not a characteristic of the decision to go to war in 2003. Greater deliberation may have avoided the tragedy that unfolded, with thousands of lives lost, many more maimed and a country still recovering from the effects.

In 2007, I visited Umm Qasr, Basra and Baghdad and saw that the invasion’s ramifications were still being felt four years after it began. For example, Iran has a great interest in Iraq, but the invasion unsettled the balance between the two countries. There was no great relationship between them; nevertheless, it was secure before the invasion. It is ramifications such as that that the Blair Government did not foresee or plan for.

In 2010, I subsequently visited Erbil and was able to hear directly from the Kurds about the ramifications for the northern part of Iraq. Again, the situation is unsettled; again, the impact was not planned for. Today, we hear regular reports about Islamic State and some of the atrocities that it is inflicting on minority populations and the rest of Iraq and Syria.

During my visits I saw for myself the folly of the invasion and how the failure to plan for the aftermath would have long-lasting effects. In the Commons, over three years, I voted on four separate occasions for an inquiry into Iraq. On each of those occasions the then Labour Government rejected those pleas. We came up with a various ways in which the inquiry could be conducted; all were rejected. The Labour Government finally conceded at the fag end of its time in government when it could not resist the calls any more.

I led on those calls for an inquiry in a Westminster Hall debate. That was again rejected. I recall the arcane debate about whether the inquiry into the Dardanelles in the first world war was a precedent for an inquiry to be held while the country was still at war. It was claimed that an inquiry would be a distraction for the military when the enemy was still to be defeated. That was four years after George Bush—we all remember that he was not even in Iraq but on an aircraft carrier off the coast of the United States of America—declared “mission accomplished”. The argument that the inquiry could not be held because the conflict was on-going was a farce.

From the beginning, the inquiry was considered an establishment stitch-up and, despite Sir John Chilcot’s determination, it is difficult to disagree. The meetings that at first were held behind closed doors, the restriction of access to records, the vetoing of transcripts and more have all compounded the delay that we are feeling the effects of today.

The inquiry’s composition was supposed to expedite matters, but the result has been an inquiry with insufficient authority. Has one single person held matters up? Probably not, but the establishment, the system and the culture have contrived to ensure that six years later we still have no answers to show. It is therefore absolutely right that the Parliament speaks up to add weight to the growing chorus that is saying, simply and clearly, “Publish—and publish without delay.”

It might be that the lesson that we must learn is that we need to invest more in our diplomatic networks or that we need to learn more about the complex and uncomfortable choices that Government has to make on international matters. I would never advocate an isolationist foreign policy, but perhaps the lesson is to know the occasions on which it is best to sit things out. I hope—I really hope—that those who made the decision are held accountable for their actions, but whatever the conclusion we must learn the lessons before the war is a distant memory.

In 2007, I attended the funeral of Private Scott Kennedy of the Black Watch, who was from Oakley and who died as a result of a roadside bomb in Iraq. For Private Kennedy and the people whom Kevin Stewart referred to—the thousands of others who have lost their lives in Iraq and beyond—we must learn, and learn soon.

14:31  

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
Good afternoon. The first item of business is a debate on motion S4M-12182, in the name of Nicola Sturgeon, on the Chilcot inquiry.
The First Minister (Nicola Sturgeon) SNP
I begin with a reminder of the gravity of the subject that we are debating. The United States-led and United Kingdom-backed invasion of Iraq in 2003 began wi...
Alex Fergusson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
I do not believe for a minute that the publication date of the Chilcot inquiry’s report is among the top 10 concerns of the Scottish people, but I strongly b...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
We know the history of obstruction and delay. What I am most concerned about is that the delay affects families who have faced the death of their loved ones ...
Alex Fergusson Con
Nor do I, but I do not think that it helps Allan Douglas’s family, or anybody else who has been involved in the process, to publish the report before the due...
Mark McDonald (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP
I am upset that the member seems to think that this is simply about politicians. Kevin Stewart raised the case of the Douglas family, who live in the same co...
Alex Fergusson Con
Not for one minute have I suggested that this is not about people, and I reject the inference. People will be best served by a proper inquiry that has undert...
Kezia Dugdale (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
The Chilcot inquiry report should be published as soon as possible. Today’s motion could have been agreed while saving debating time in the chamber for matte...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will Ms Dugdale give way?
Kezia Dugdale Lab
No, thank you. It has become clear that the Iraqi people were let down by a failure of post-war planning and that the price in lives lost was far too high....
Mark McDonald SNP
Will the member give way?
Kezia Dugdale Lab
No, thank you. It is clear that there is a thirst for democracy across the middle east, but as that has created hope it has uncovered competing interests an...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will Ms Dugdale give way?
Kezia Dugdale Lab
No, thank you. A sustainable peace between the Israeli people and the Palestinian people seems as far off as ever in the region. Petro-economies are struggl...
Mark McDonald SNP
Will the member give way?
Kezia Dugdale Lab
No, thank you. Little wonder world affairs commentators have a new acronym for the region: BAD, which stands for broken, angry and dysfunctional. What matt...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will Ms Dugdale give way?
Kezia Dugdale Lab
No, thank you. Whatever side of the argument we were on 10 years ago, we should all unite around a vision for the middle east with human rights, the rule of...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We now move to the open debate. Speeches should be four minutes long, but we have some time in hand if interventions are taken. 14:22
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Today, the First Minister reminded us of the words that Prime Minister Gordon Brown used when he launched the Chilcot inquiry. He promised that it would help...
Willie Rennie (Mid Scotland and Fife) (LD) LD
This is yet another occasion on which my party and the First Minister’s party have been united on the issue of Iraq. I am sure that she was as disappointed a...
Christina McKelvie (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (SNP) SNP
The most important keyword in this whole debate is transparency. Why is that? Because there is none. The Westminster establishment has abandoned even a sembl...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to contribute to the first Government business debate that Nicola Sturgeon has brought forward as First Minister. As Kezia Dugdale ...
Bruce Crawford (Stirling) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Neil Bibby Lab
Sorry, I do not have time. The people of Iraq cannot afford to have their current needs lost in the discussion of those past mistakes. We know that the conf...
Jim Eadie (Edinburgh Southern) (SNP) SNP
The debate goes to the heart of one of the greatest issues to have faced the United Kingdom in modern times, for there can be no graver decision than that of...
James Kelly (Rutherglen) (Lab) Lab
I support the Government’s motion, and specifically its call for the report to be published as early as possible. However, I agree with the sentiment that so...
Gil Paterson (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
James Kelly Lab
No, thank you.
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will the member give way on that point?