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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 29 January 2015

29 Jan 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Chilcot Inquiry
Fergusson, Alex Con Galloway and West Dumfries Watch on SPTV

Not for one minute have I suggested that this is not about people, and I reject the inference. People will be best served by a proper inquiry that has undertaken all the due processes that give it total legitimacy, and that is what we need. That the report will be published as soon as possible is what Sir John has said will happen, and that is what we in the Conservatives will support.

In a reply to a written parliamentary question from Rhoda Grant on 25 November last year about the delay in publication of the report of the Scottish public inquiry into hepatitis C/HIV, Maureen Watt, as the newly appointed minister, said:

“As the member will be aware, the Penrose Inquiry is independent of Scottish Ministers and it is for the Chairman, Lord Penrose, to decide on the progress and timetabling of the Inquiry.”—[Written Answers, 3 December 2014; S4W-23426.]

If that is good enough for inquiries that the Scottish Government instituted, surely it is the right process for Chilcot.

In all honesty, I do not really understand why the Government has chosen to debate the matter at all, other than for narrow political reasons. However, as the amendment in my name reflects, the independence of the process has to take precedence over any other factor. That is why we cannot support the Government’s motion at decision time.

I move amendment S4M-12182.1, to leave out from “calls” to end and insert:

“accepts that the timing of the release of the findings of the Chilcot inquiry into the invasion of Iraq is entirely for the inquiry itself to decide; expresses its disappointment that the inquiry has now stated that its findings will not be published before the 2015 general election, and, despite Sir John Chilcot’s statement confirming this, calls on him to publish the inquiry’s findings as soon as possible.”

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The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
Good afternoon. The first item of business is a debate on motion S4M-12182, in the name of Nicola Sturgeon, on the Chilcot inquiry.
The First Minister (Nicola Sturgeon) SNP
I begin with a reminder of the gravity of the subject that we are debating. The United States-led and United Kingdom-backed invasion of Iraq in 2003 began wi...
Alex Fergusson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
I do not believe for a minute that the publication date of the Chilcot inquiry’s report is among the top 10 concerns of the Scottish people, but I strongly b...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
We know the history of obstruction and delay. What I am most concerned about is that the delay affects families who have faced the death of their loved ones ...
Alex Fergusson Con
Nor do I, but I do not think that it helps Allan Douglas’s family, or anybody else who has been involved in the process, to publish the report before the due...
Mark McDonald (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP
I am upset that the member seems to think that this is simply about politicians. Kevin Stewart raised the case of the Douglas family, who live in the same co...
Alex Fergusson Con
Not for one minute have I suggested that this is not about people, and I reject the inference. People will be best served by a proper inquiry that has undert...
Kezia Dugdale (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
The Chilcot inquiry report should be published as soon as possible. Today’s motion could have been agreed while saving debating time in the chamber for matte...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will Ms Dugdale give way?
Kezia Dugdale Lab
No, thank you. It has become clear that the Iraqi people were let down by a failure of post-war planning and that the price in lives lost was far too high....
Mark McDonald SNP
Will the member give way?
Kezia Dugdale Lab
No, thank you. It is clear that there is a thirst for democracy across the middle east, but as that has created hope it has uncovered competing interests an...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will Ms Dugdale give way?
Kezia Dugdale Lab
No, thank you. A sustainable peace between the Israeli people and the Palestinian people seems as far off as ever in the region. Petro-economies are struggl...
Mark McDonald SNP
Will the member give way?
Kezia Dugdale Lab
No, thank you. Little wonder world affairs commentators have a new acronym for the region: BAD, which stands for broken, angry and dysfunctional. What matt...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will Ms Dugdale give way?
Kezia Dugdale Lab
No, thank you. Whatever side of the argument we were on 10 years ago, we should all unite around a vision for the middle east with human rights, the rule of...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We now move to the open debate. Speeches should be four minutes long, but we have some time in hand if interventions are taken. 14:22
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Today, the First Minister reminded us of the words that Prime Minister Gordon Brown used when he launched the Chilcot inquiry. He promised that it would help...
Willie Rennie (Mid Scotland and Fife) (LD) LD
This is yet another occasion on which my party and the First Minister’s party have been united on the issue of Iraq. I am sure that she was as disappointed a...
Christina McKelvie (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (SNP) SNP
The most important keyword in this whole debate is transparency. Why is that? Because there is none. The Westminster establishment has abandoned even a sembl...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to contribute to the first Government business debate that Nicola Sturgeon has brought forward as First Minister. As Kezia Dugdale ...
Bruce Crawford (Stirling) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Neil Bibby Lab
Sorry, I do not have time. The people of Iraq cannot afford to have their current needs lost in the discussion of those past mistakes. We know that the conf...
Jim Eadie (Edinburgh Southern) (SNP) SNP
The debate goes to the heart of one of the greatest issues to have faced the United Kingdom in modern times, for there can be no graver decision than that of...
James Kelly (Rutherglen) (Lab) Lab
I support the Government’s motion, and specifically its call for the report to be published as early as possible. However, I agree with the sentiment that so...
Gil Paterson (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
James Kelly Lab
No, thank you.
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will the member give way on that point?