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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 28 January 2015

28 Jan 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Women Offenders
Baxter, Jayne Lab Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

Yes, to put it briefly.

Statistics show that 70 per cent of women offenders who receive a prison sentence of three months or less are reconvicted of an offence within two years. That is because the scope for rehabilitation with such short sentences is highly limited. According to the Prison Reform Trust, “virtually all” women in prison in Scotland have a history of problematic use of drugs or alcohol, or both. The trust reports that more than 70 per cent of women in prison have reported using drugs in the past year, that one in three are currently on methadone and that around half say that they were under the influence of alcohol when they committed the offence for which they were imprisoned, which is a higher figure than that for male offenders. Similarly, seven out of 10 female prisoners disclosed a history of abuse or trauma. Prison is a hugely counter-productive environment for many of those women.

As I said, women tend to commit fewer serious offences than men. The most common crime that resulted in a custodial sentence for women in 2013-14 was shoplifting, with one in four custodial sentences being given for that crime. Only 5 per cent of women who received custodial sentences were convicted of serious crimes such as homicide, attempted murder, serious assault or robbery, and only a handful of women a year are imprisoned for long sentences of more than four years. We should also keep it in mind that, as colleagues have said during the debate, the proportion of the female prison population on remand is higher than that of the male population, and 70 per cent of female remand prisoners do not go on to receive a custodial sentence.

It is also important to acknowledge the increased effectiveness of women-specific interventions, whether custodial or non-custodial. According to the Howard League for Penal Reform in Scotland, 83 per cent of women who used the services of the 218 service in Glasgow reported significant decreases in drug and/or alcohol use, and 67 per cent indicated improvements in their overall health and wellbeing. That is one of the many examples of successful, women-specific, tailored interventions. I have not visited the 218 service but I would certainly like to visit it in the near future.

Another example of such a service is Fife Council’s criminal justice social work service, which has adopted a multidisciplinary approach to women offenders, with input from the national health service, Scottish Women’s Aid, the Scottish Prison Service and many other agencies. I really welcome the commitment that has been given this afternoon to additional funding for such services, which can only be good news.

It is troubling to me that we now send twice as many women to prison as we did in 2000, even though the female crime rate has dropped significantly since then. We can see the effects at a local level in Fife. In February 2009, 27 women from Fife were in custody and 330 were on community-based supervision—that is, 8 per cent were in custody and 92 per cent were in the community. By July 2013, 49 women from Fife were in custody and 456 were subject to community-based supervision. As the Scottish Prisons Commission said:

“Increased use of prisons is the result of using it for those who are troubled and troubling rather than dangerous.”

I therefore have no problem in agreeing with the Government’s amendment and its acknowledgement of the Angiolini report and its proposals for dealing with women offenders.

As I have outlined, it is clear that prison does not work for most women or families. Nearly two thirds of women in prison have children. When a father goes to prison in Scotland, 95 per cent of the children continue to live with their mother, but when a mother goes to jail, fewer than one in five children stays with their father—the others are sent to live with other family members or find themselves placed in care. A large number end up having no contact with their mother.

The Angiolini report demonstrated that women prisoners who have regular contact with their children are less likely to reoffend. We also know that the children of women in prison are more likely to suffer trauma. One in three children with a parent in prison develops serious mental health issues—almost 450 children in this country are affected at any given time.

I very much welcome the Scottish Government’s decision not to build the proposed women’s prison at Inverclyde. I know that that position has widespread support from Barnardo’s, the Howard League for Penal Reform, Circle Scotland, the Scottish Quakers community justice network, women for independence, Professor Andrew Coyle, King’s College London, the international centre for prison studies, Baroness Jean Corston and the thousands of people, including me, who signed an online petition that Edinburgh women for independence set up.

Scottish Labour’s plan to cancel the building of the new facility and reinvest the costs associated with it in far more successful and humane community-based sentences and family justice centres that are tailored to women would cut crime and reoffending. It costs almost £32,000 a year to keep someone in prison, but the human cost is incalculable.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-12160, in the name of Kezia Dugdale, on women offenders. I call Kezia Dugdale to speak to and move the mo...
Kezia Dugdale (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to devote Labour business time to female offending. It is to our collective shame that the female population of our prisons has dou...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I am very much in tune with what Kezia Dugdale is saying. A Soroptimist International report that came out recently says that 80 per cent of women offenders ...
Kezia Dugdale Lab
I absolutely concur with that. Several Labour members will touch on mental health. I would have more sympathy with Stewart Stevenson’s position, however, if ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Michael Matheson) SNP
Members are aware that I announced on Monday that the Scottish Prison Service’s plan for a women’s prison in Inverclyde will not go ahead because the plan do...
Kezia Dugdale Lab
I welcome the cabinet secretary’s remarks on evaluation. Can he tell us, in response to the question that I asked in my opening speech, whether he has examin...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Cabinet secretary—you are approaching your last 30 seconds.
Michael Matheson SNP
My officials are engaged in work on those projects. When the projects received funding two years ago, part of the agreement concerned their sustainability an...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I congratulate Labour on bringing the issue of women offenders to the chamber. I am sympathetic to the intent behind the motion, but it misses the mark with ...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
I am so pleased that the Cabinet Secretary for Justice has reflected on the plan for HMP Inverclyde and listened to the progressive voices that were raised a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We move to the open debate. We do not have a lot of time available, so I ask members to keep to speeches of six minutes. 15:48
Roderick Campbell (North East Fife) (SNP) SNP
Like others, I welcomed the cabinet secretary’s statement on Monday. I also welcomed his considered response to the Justice Committee on 16 December. Members...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
Like other members and the organisations that have campaigned for a rethink on the proposed female prison at Inverclyde, I welcome the cabinet secretary’s st...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I commend Alison McInnes, not just for her very measured and thoughtful speech, but because she has single-handedly kept the focus on the delivery of the rec...
Margaret Mitchell Con
Is the point not that the facility that was proposed was not in line with Elish Angiolini’s recommendations, which had been fully debated? It had been identi...
Christine Grahame SNP
None of us on the committee thought that what was proposed was perfect, but I do not recall anyone opposing it aggressively. We had huge reservations about l...
Mary Fee (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I congratulate the cabinet secretary on taking the decision not to go ahead with the proposed women’s prison in Inverclyde. We need a radical change in how w...
Roderick Campbell SNP
The member may recall that Dame Elish Angiolini, in giving evidence on child impact assessments, said: “I do not believe that any judge who sentenced withou...
Mary Fee Lab
I take on board that point. However, I am trying to make the point that the child and family impact assessment should be at the front and centre of decision ...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I congratulate Kezia Dugdale on what was basically a broadly drawn and generally well-argued case. I agree on the broad thrust and disagree on the detail—tha...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I have a couple of facts to share. The previous numeracy survey, which was carried out in 2013, says that 22 per cent of women had numeracy problems, 11 per ...
Stewart Stevenson SNP
I am grateful to the member for that. I am more familiar with the circumstances of male prisoners, because the sex offenders unit used to be in my constituen...
Christina McKelvie (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (SNP) SNP
A famous female offender said: “Who were the women who, day by day, trod the very stones on which my feet now stood ... ? How and why had they broken the la...
Jayne Baxter (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
When the Angiolini report was published, the then justice secretary, Kenny MacAskill, called it a “compelling vision for the future.” The centrepiece of th...
Christina McKelvie SNP
Like me, the member will know that three quarters of the women who are sent to jail receive sentences of six months or less. In 2008, the McLeish commission ...
Jayne Baxter Lab
Yes, to put it briefly. Statistics show that 70 per cent of women offenders who receive a prison sentence of three months or less are reconvicted of an offe...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
You should draw to a close, please.
Jayne Baxter Lab
On a related topic, the Scottish sentencing council is an important development. It will provide an opportunity for a wider range of voices to be heard in th...
Gil Paterson (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to speak in this debate on women offenders and how we can best deal with that problem. This is my first speech as a member of the Justice Commit...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I begin as I do in almost all the speeches that I make in the chamber by praising the Government for the things that it is doing right, in particular the cou...