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Meeting of the Parliament 28 January 2015

28 Jan 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Women Offenders

Like other members and the organisations that have campaigned for a rethink on the proposed female prison at Inverclyde, I welcome the cabinet secretary’s statement. As Roddy Campbell said, when the Cabinet Secretary for Justice attended the Justice Committee on 16 December, he said that he intended to understand all the aspects of the issues before he took the final decision, and I am pleased that he has done so.

Previously, the Scottish Government stated that it accepted 33 of the Angiolini commission’s 37 recommendations. However, the principal recommendation—that HMP Cornton Vale should be replaced by a smaller, specialist prison for female offenders who are serving a statutory long-term sentence and those who present a significant risk to the public—was not really followed either in spirit or to the letter.

The statistics on female offenders speak for themselves. In 2012-13, 14 per cent of crimes were committed by women, but the vast majority of the offences were minor. Overall, women are less likely than men to receive a custodial sentence. Less than 6 per cent of the prison population are women, but three quarters of those who are serving a custodial sentence are serving 6 months or less.

One quarter of women in the prison population are on remand—that figure has doubled in 10 years. Those prisoners are women and girls who have not yet been found guilty of any offence and, shockingly, only 30 per cent of women who are held in prison on remand actually go on to serve a custodial sentence. More than one in six women who are held in prison on remand should not be there at all, as the crimes of which they are accused do not merit a custodial sentence. Those women are removed from their homes, their families and their children and placed in prison, accused of a crime that is not punishable by imprisonment. That cannot be right.

As Stewart Stevenson indicated, four fifths of the female prison population have mental health problems, and 60 per cent were under the influence of drugs and 40 per cent under the influence of alcohol at the time of their offence. Eighty-four per cent were unemployed at the time of their offence and 71 per cent have no formal qualifications—compare that to the figure of 15 per cent for the general population. More than half of them have experienced domestic abuse and one third are victims of sexual abuse.

Almost four out of five women offenders show evidence of impulsive and risk-taking behaviour. Recent studies, including those of male prisoners, indicate that such behaviour may result from brain injuries, particularly those that are acquired in childhood.

It is not just the women themselves who are affected. Two thirds of the women in prison have children and across Scotland 27,000 children annually are affected by their parents’ imprisonment. However, although two thirds of women prisoners have children, only four in 10 receive visits. Prison visiting is a particular problem when women are imprisoned far from home and where public transport links are poor. That was one of my concerns about the configuration that was proposed previously, which had a large prison in Inverclyde and hubs in Edinburgh and Grampian. Prison visiting would not be easy for families from Dumfries and Galloway.

HMP Dumfries used to take local women offenders when it was a young offenders institution, but there were insufficient numbers for it to be able to offer the women an effective programme of education and work. Once when I visited there was only one woman there; clearly, that was a very unsatisfactory situation for her. There needs to be an examination of how we treat different parts of the country.

The Angiolini commission stated that it was convinced that there needs to be a new approach to the management of women in Scotland’s prison system. We know that very short prison sentences are often ineffective in addressing the causes of offending. Alternatives to imprisonment, remand and prosecution need to be developed that challenge offending behaviour and provide support to deal with the underlying issues that result in offending—mental health problems, addiction and so on.

The Angiolini commission, as members have said, recommended investment in community justice centres to provide intensive interventions that would be available at every stage of the criminal justice system. Attendance could be a condition for diversion from prosecution, a condition of bail or a condition of release from prison. Offenders would be supervised and managed and would be able to draw on support from a variety of agencies and services on mental health, debt management, employment, housing, childcare and benefits. Community justice centres can co-ordinate alternatives to prosecution such as early intervention with young offenders, fiscal work orders and composite diversion orders.

As other members have said, support needs to be made available for female offenders across Scotland, including those in rural communities. That means sustainable funding for other support models, too, so I was pleased to hear the cabinet secretary’s announcement today of £1.5 million in the next financial year.

Women often end up on remand because they have broken their bail conditions; that should be tackled by better supervision of bail, but monitoring and supervision of bail have actually decreased. In contrast, some time ago Sweden introduced intensive supervision sentences of up to six months, which are served at home on an electronic tag. They are a form of house arrest, although women are allowed out for employment, training, healthcare and rehabilitation—they get those services, as well. We need to look at some of the international examples of good practice regarding alternatives to imprisonment.

Cancelling the prison contract is a welcome first step, but we have a long way to go in developing the sort of interventions that keep women out of prison and that work across urban and rural Scotland. Diversion from crime and prevention are of course the most preferable, but interventions are needed at all stages of the criminal justice system.

16:00  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-12160, in the name of Kezia Dugdale, on women offenders. I call Kezia Dugdale to speak to and move the mo...
Kezia Dugdale (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to devote Labour business time to female offending. It is to our collective shame that the female population of our prisons has dou...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I am very much in tune with what Kezia Dugdale is saying. A Soroptimist International report that came out recently says that 80 per cent of women offenders ...
Kezia Dugdale Lab
I absolutely concur with that. Several Labour members will touch on mental health. I would have more sympathy with Stewart Stevenson’s position, however, if ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Michael Matheson) SNP
Members are aware that I announced on Monday that the Scottish Prison Service’s plan for a women’s prison in Inverclyde will not go ahead because the plan do...
Kezia Dugdale Lab
I welcome the cabinet secretary’s remarks on evaluation. Can he tell us, in response to the question that I asked in my opening speech, whether he has examin...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Cabinet secretary—you are approaching your last 30 seconds.
Michael Matheson SNP
My officials are engaged in work on those projects. When the projects received funding two years ago, part of the agreement concerned their sustainability an...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I congratulate Labour on bringing the issue of women offenders to the chamber. I am sympathetic to the intent behind the motion, but it misses the mark with ...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
I am so pleased that the Cabinet Secretary for Justice has reflected on the plan for HMP Inverclyde and listened to the progressive voices that were raised a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We move to the open debate. We do not have a lot of time available, so I ask members to keep to speeches of six minutes. 15:48
Roderick Campbell (North East Fife) (SNP) SNP
Like others, I welcomed the cabinet secretary’s statement on Monday. I also welcomed his considered response to the Justice Committee on 16 December. Members...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
Like other members and the organisations that have campaigned for a rethink on the proposed female prison at Inverclyde, I welcome the cabinet secretary’s st...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I commend Alison McInnes, not just for her very measured and thoughtful speech, but because she has single-handedly kept the focus on the delivery of the rec...
Margaret Mitchell Con
Is the point not that the facility that was proposed was not in line with Elish Angiolini’s recommendations, which had been fully debated? It had been identi...
Christine Grahame SNP
None of us on the committee thought that what was proposed was perfect, but I do not recall anyone opposing it aggressively. We had huge reservations about l...
Mary Fee (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I congratulate the cabinet secretary on taking the decision not to go ahead with the proposed women’s prison in Inverclyde. We need a radical change in how w...
Roderick Campbell SNP
The member may recall that Dame Elish Angiolini, in giving evidence on child impact assessments, said: “I do not believe that any judge who sentenced withou...
Mary Fee Lab
I take on board that point. However, I am trying to make the point that the child and family impact assessment should be at the front and centre of decision ...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I congratulate Kezia Dugdale on what was basically a broadly drawn and generally well-argued case. I agree on the broad thrust and disagree on the detail—tha...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I have a couple of facts to share. The previous numeracy survey, which was carried out in 2013, says that 22 per cent of women had numeracy problems, 11 per ...
Stewart Stevenson SNP
I am grateful to the member for that. I am more familiar with the circumstances of male prisoners, because the sex offenders unit used to be in my constituen...
Christina McKelvie (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (SNP) SNP
A famous female offender said: “Who were the women who, day by day, trod the very stones on which my feet now stood ... ? How and why had they broken the la...
Jayne Baxter (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
When the Angiolini report was published, the then justice secretary, Kenny MacAskill, called it a “compelling vision for the future.” The centrepiece of th...
Christina McKelvie SNP
Like me, the member will know that three quarters of the women who are sent to jail receive sentences of six months or less. In 2008, the McLeish commission ...
Jayne Baxter Lab
Yes, to put it briefly. Statistics show that 70 per cent of women offenders who receive a prison sentence of three months or less are reconvicted of an offe...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
You should draw to a close, please.
Jayne Baxter Lab
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Gil Paterson (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
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Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I begin as I do in almost all the speeches that I make in the chamber by praising the Government for the things that it is doing right, in particular the cou...