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Meeting of the Parliament 21 January 2014

21 Jan 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Suicide Prevention

I, too, welcome the publication of the Scottish Government’s new “Suicide Prevention Strategy 2013-2016”, and I commend the minister for providing us with this opportunity to debate its contents.

Suicide is an incredibly sensitive issue and one that must be treated as such by all of us across society. As Willie Coffey has already said, I dare say that most of us in the chamber will know of someone who has either committed or attempted suicide. I know of more than one, unfortunately, and Kenny Gibson mentioned a few of his family members. It is hard to articulate just how much the friends and relatives of those concerned can suffer in the aftermath. It is important that we drive down the number of suicides in Scotland and that any framework that is put in place to achieve that aim is fit for purpose.

The latest strategy follows on from “Choose Life: A National Strategy and Action Plan to Prevent Suicide in Scotland”, which was published in 2002, and it certainly builds on some of the successes of its predecessor. The 18 per cent reduction in suicides in Scotland and the fact that all probationer police officers and 50 per cent of front-line NHS staff are now trained in suicide prevention techniques provide a good platform on which to build.

I have highlighted in previous debates on mental health that it is vital that we end the spectre of patients being condemned to long-term repeat prescriptions for antidepressants without regular reviews of their response to the treatment. The strategy highlights how important it is that we make a concerted effort to change that, as it notes that,

“at the time of death, many people are receiving some form of medication used in the treatment of mental illness.”

Perhaps something as simple as a review of their medication with a change to the dosage or the drug may have made a difference to their mood.

The minister will be well aware of the successful pilot that was held in Glasgow in which participating practices reviewed those who were on antidepressants for more than two years. It led to 28 per cent of patients having a change in their therapy and an 8 per cent reduction in prescribing costs. Reviews can make a difference, but I appreciate that the use of antidepressants is essential in many cases.

I was delighted to come across commitment 7 in the strategy, which reads:

“We will work with the Royal College of General Practitioners and other relevant stakeholders to develop approaches to ensure more regular review of those on long-term drug treatment for mental illness, to ensure that patients receive the safest and most appropriate treatment.”

I welcome the inclusion of that important commitment in the strategy and I would be grateful if the minister provided in his summing-up a timeframe for engaging with stakeholders on working towards those much-needed reviews.

In 2008, the Scottish Government published “Equally Well: Report of the Ministerial Task Force on Inequalities”, which makes recommendations on tackling health inequalities. It said that one of the challenges that faced the ministerial task force was that

“Those living in the most deprived”

10 per cent of

“areas of Scotland have a suicide risk double that of the Scottish average.”

I appreciate the mention of farmers and vets by Nanette Milne and Kenny Gibson. It is without doubt that the incidence of suicide among such people is high because they have access to the means of committing suicide.

I was disappointed that health inequalities merited only one fleeting mention in the suicide prevention strategy. The link between inequalities and greater rates of suicide is acknowledged in “Equally Well”, and it merits greater inclusion in the overall discussion on preventing suicide.

Timely access to psychological therapies has a role to play in treating those with mental illness more effectively, and I hope that it would have the knock-on effect of reducing the number of suicides further. I therefore welcomed the target of access to psychological therapies within 18 weeks of referral as a positive step. However, I caution that, for someone who is suffering from mental anguish, 18 weeks is a long time to wait. Many such patients have of course suffered for some time before their referral. The minister should not limit his ambitions to 18 weeks.

The target is due for delivery by December, so this is not the time to move backwards. In September, there was a 3 per cent drop in the number who are being treated on time. One fifth have to wait more than 18 weeks for treatment, so the Scottish Government cannot rest on its laurels yet.

The head of psychological services in one health board told me that, alongside its counterparts in other areas, that board is constantly making the case for greater investment in mental health services. Yesterday, I visited Midpark hospital in Dumfries, which I know that the minister visited in 2012—I saw his signature in the visitors book. NHS boards are experiencing increasing demand for such services because of the economic downturn and—perhaps more positively—because the public are becoming much more aware of the services’ availability.

I hope that we might be beginning to see some erosion of the stigma that has plagued mental health. The Scottish Government needs to continue to address that. It will also have to address the clear disparity that exists across Scotland in access to clinical and other applied psychologists. It cannot be right that, per head of population, NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde and NHS Fife have twice the number of psychologists that NHS Forth Valley has. If the health improvement, efficiency and governance, access and treatment—HEAT—target is to be met later this year, access must be addressed urgently.

Suicide is difficult for those who are left to comprehend. I am glad that we are making progress with a decrease in suicides, and I look forward to much more progress in the near future.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-08800, in the name of Michael Matheson, on suicide prevention. We have an ample sufficiency of time this...
The Minister for Public Health (Michael Matheson) SNP
I am pleased to open the debate on behalf of the Scottish Government. As the motion says, “significant progress ... has been made in recent years in suici...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Suicide affects far too many families and communities throughout the world. It is reported that an astonishing 1 million people commit suicide every year. Th...
Nanette Milne (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
It is customary in most debates to begin by welcoming the issue that has been brought to the chamber for discussion. However, for far too long people have sh...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Many thanks. We move to the open debate. We have ample time for interventions and I look forward to those things happening. 15:17
Willie Coffey (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP) SNP
Most of us who speak in this debate probably know or know of someone in their community—perhaps even in their family—who has committed suicide. The loss of a...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am grateful to members who have shared their knowledge on the subject but, like Nanette Milne, I, too, am not content that we need to discuss this issue an...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
I pay tribute to the organisations out there that are doing a huge amount of work in tackling mental health stigma and in trying to prevent suicide—organisat...
Kenneth Gibson (Cunninghame North) (SNP) SNP
Dr Sir Thomas Browne created the word “suicide” meaning “to kill oneself” in the 17th century, but it has always been with us. The early Christian church ex...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I am glad that Mr Gibson talked about the inroads that have been made in relation to reporting. There are a huge number of responsible journalists out there....
Kenneth Gibson SNP
I have never watched that programme so I find it difficult to comment on that one in particular, but all stereotypes involving people with mental health issu...
Jim Hume (South Scotland) (LD) LD
I, too, welcome the publication of the Scottish Government’s new “Suicide Prevention Strategy 2013-2016”, and I commend the minister for providing us with th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I call Christine Grahame, who has a generous six minutes. After that, I will be happy to call James Dornan. 15:53
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I compliment the Parliament on discussing mental health and suicide prevention. In my long time in the Parliament, we seem to have raised those issues many t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
Yes.
Christine Grahame SNP
I ask the minister, who has indicated the issues that he is dealing with, why the ministers for education and children are not also involved in the mental he...
James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) SNP
I was not going to take part in the debate but, with your indulgence Presiding Officer, I will make a short contribution. Some members have already raised t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We now turn to closing speeches. I remind members who participated in the debate that they should be in the chamber for closing speeches. 16:07
Jackson Carlaw (West Scotland) (Con) Con
This is one of these debates to which we contribute as politicians wishing that we knew more about the subject—much more about the subject than any one of us...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I understand—I do not think that this is a Westminster myth—that, for a great number of years, the sons and daughters of newly elected MPs received a letter ...
Jackson Carlaw Con
Potentially, within what Mr Stewart says is the germ of an idea that goes way beyond politicians. Children who have suffered might well be a source of inform...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I have advised Parliament that I expect all members who have participated in debates to be present for closing speeches. I regret to note that Graeme Pearson...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
Like many other members, I find it difficult to imagine what drives people to suicide or, indeed, the anguish of family members who are faced with the suicid...
Michael Matheson SNP
I very much welcome the tone of the debate and appreciate the fact that all members support the motion. Over the years we have been able to share a common pu...
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I totally agree with the minister’s point about Scotland leading the way in strategies and so on. However, in a 10-year period, we have also seen an increase...
Michael Matheson SNP
In any mental health debate, the prescribing of antidepressants is inevitably raised. It is worth keeping it in mind that medication for mental illness is as...
Christine Grahame SNP
Will the minister take an intervention?
Michael Matheson SNP
Let me just finish my point. If those individuals are in contact with those services, why are we not picking up on their potential risk of committing suicid...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I can give you about two minutes more.
Christine Grahame SNP
Some members said that some suicides are not detectable and come out the blue. On suicides being preventable, will the minister—before he runs out of time—ad...