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Meeting of the Parliament 20 May 2014

20 May 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Disabled Persons’ Parking Badges (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

It seems only a minute—or maybe it was four—since I gave my opening speech. Still, what the debate lacked in longevity, it more than made up in its succinct, constructive and supportive tone in favour of Dennis Robertson’s bill.

In my opening remarks, I outlined why I support the bill, which will bring much-needed improvement to the administration of the blue badge scheme. However, I am aware that there are still some concerns over some of the finer details. For instance, there are a range of views on non-uniformed enforcement officers. I am a bit wary of that issue, the crux of which is the striking of a balance between the most effective way of enforcing the legislation and showing an appropriate level of sensitivity to blue badge users and their personal circumstances. Very quickly, we centred on how officers will be identified and whether that will give assurances to the likes of Inclusion Scotland. There is clearly a need for some further discussion on the point, probably at stage 2.

Liam McArthur mentioned the hoops that people need to go through to get a blue badge. That is not covered in the bill, but it is a difficult, complicated process. I know that, as I have gone through it. I sent in a picture of me limping along a pavement because I could not show them that I am disabled.

The Law Society of Scotland highlighted its concerns about the inclusion in the bill of strict criminal liability relating to the use of a badge once it has been cancelled, and other evidence was given to the committee about the potential for people to commit offences inadvertently. We heard concerns about what would happen where vulnerable badge holders were aware of abuse but had limited options due to their reliance on others around them. Along with the enforcement issue that I mentioned earlier, that highlights an important aspect of the enforcement of the legislation, namely that it will require local authority officers and the police, where appropriate, to exercise their duties with a good deal of care and sensitivity.

Although we agree that, in clear-cut cases of fraud, we expect the perpetrator to be prosecuted, we would all expect a certain flexibility and discretion to be shown in the more complex areas that there will undoubtedly be. We do not want genuine mistakes to be met with punitive fines.

If we are to have well-trained enforcement officers on the ground, we will need the money to fund them, which brings me to the vexed issue of funding and resources. Happily, a number of local authorities have officers in place who are able to tackle the matter at present, but they would have to monitor the working of the bill in practice. Perhaps that is something that we can deal with at stage 2. We also heard that there was anecdotal evidence of unofficial amnesties on expired blue badges where councils had a backlog in the administrative processing of appeals. The system must be properly funded if it is to work, and greater funding will be required for the process of reviewing decisions.

In areas where the police are responsible for enforcement, resources will have to be put in place. I was pleased to hear the assurances that were given at the committee, but we must monitor the situation in that regard.

I am sure that all the issues that I have mentioned can be highlighted at stage 2, but we must not lose sight of the fact that, at its core, the bill gives local authorities and police sensible powers—powers that they have long sought—to challenge the widespread abuse of the blue badge scheme. Therefore, I support the bill.

17:11

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate in the name of Dennis Robertson, on the Disabled Persons’ Parking Badges (Scotland) Bill. 16:21
Dennis Robertson (Aberdeenshire West) (SNP) SNP
It gives me great pleasure this afternoon to come to the chamber to introduce the Disabled Persons’ Parking Badges (Scotland) Bill, which is more commonly kn...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Kevin Stewart to speak on behalf of the Local Government and Regeneration Committee. You have a maximum of seven minutes, Mr Stewart. 16:31
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I am delighted to be speaking in this debate on behalf of the Local Government and Regeneration Committee, which scrutinised th...
The Minister for Transport and Veterans (Keith Brown) SNP
I am pleased to contribute to the debate and, as Kevin Stewart did, commend Dennis Robertson for the work that he has done so far. I reiterate that the Gover...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
Blue badge holders in my constituency have raised concerns about the rather onerous hoops that they need to go through to apply for the blue badge when it is...
Keith Brown SNP
I have heard other individuals express that concern, which is often the result of welfare reform changes that require people, as Liam McArthur put it, to go ...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to speak on the Disabled Persons’ Parking Badges (Scotland) Bill and I congratulate Dennis Robertson on the progress that he has ma...
Cameron Buchanan (Lothian) (Con) Con
I start by declaring an interest as a blue badge holder, as members will know I am from seeing me stagger into the chamber with my two sticks. I have a great...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We move to the open debate. If members keep their speeches to a maximum of four minutes, I should be able to call everyone who wants to speak. 16:55
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
I congratulate my colleague Dennis Robertson on introducing the bill. I fully agree with the bill’s policy objectives of protecting the rights of badge holde...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I join others in warmly congratulating Dennis Robertson on the progress that he has made with the bill so far. All the speakers have rightly pointed out that...
John Wilson (Central Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I come to the debate as a member of the Local Government and Regeneration Committee and as a member, in the previous parliamentary session, of the Local Gove...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
You are in your final minute.
John Wilson SNP
Both the member in charge of the bill, Dennis Robertson MSP, and the minister said that many disability organisations do not share the concerns that have bee...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We now turn to the closing speeches. I remind members who have participated in the debate that they should be in the chamber for the closing speeches. 17:07
Cameron Buchanan Con
It seems only a minute—or maybe it was four—since I gave my opening speech. Still, what the debate lacked in longevity, it more than made up in its succinct,...
Anne McTaggart (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
As a member of the Local Government and Regeneration Committee, I have had the opportunity to consider in some detail the proposal contained in the bill and ...
Keith Brown SNP
I will try to cover and respond to some of the points that have been raised in the debate. John Wilson talked about enforcement in private car parks, and h...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I thank the minister for giving way, and I note that he and I are wearing twin ties for Enable Scotland. The minister mentioned changes to welfare in his r...
Keith Brown SNP
It is a very good point. I noticed that Kenneth Gibson was also wearing the same tie for Enable Scotland. This is an enabling bill for those who have disabil...
Dennis Robertson SNP
I thank members for taking part in the debate, and I thank the minister for responding to some of the issues that members raised. I can offer some degree of...
Kevin Stewart SNP
It was suggested during evidence taking that it may be an idea to get folk to sign and say that they have understood the guidance. Will the review group look...
Dennis Robertson SNP
Mr Stewart makes a valid point, and it is certainly something that the review group will consider. That is perhaps one aspect of trying to ensure that badge ...