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Meeting of the Parliament 20 May 2014

20 May 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Disabled Persons’ Parking Badges (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Thank you, Presiding Officer. I am delighted to be speaking in this debate on behalf of the Local Government and Regeneration Committee, which scrutinised the bill at stage 1.

Dennis Robertson is to be commended for all his hard work and diligence in producing the bill. He has introduced it and piloted it to this stage. He has a personal interest as a blue badge holder, which I am sure has probably added to the work required of him. In his opening speech, he helpfully set out in general terms what the bill seeks to achieve.

This member’s bill is small in size, but do not let that fool anybody; it addresses a serious matter and the committee heard some illuminating evidence about the scale of the problems that exist. As with all bills that come before the committee, we initially sought views on its content. We received 27 responses, many of which mirrored comments that Dennis Robertson received in his earlier consultation.

The committee also heard evidence from three panels of witnesses, representing local authorities, third sector bodies including disability organisations, and the police and the Law Society of Scotland. In a departure from our normal approach, we heard evidence from the member in charge, Dennis Robertson, in a panel alongside the minister. That worked extremely well, with the evidence from the member and from the minister dovetailing and complementing one another. It avoided duplication and, of course, reduced the time involved, for which my very busy committee was extremely grateful. I would recommend that other committees consider that approach for bills where the underlying policy is not contentious.

There were some limited disagreements between witnesses, which is to be expected and, of course, is welcome, as it allows the committee to test the policy fully. We are extremely grateful to all those who gave us evidence, be it in written or oral form. Without input from such people, committees and, indeed, the Parliament could not properly and effectively scrutinise legislation.

We heard that some 260,000 individuals in Scotland hold a blue badge, for many of whom the badge provides a lifeline, allowing them to park without charge or time limit in otherwise restricted on-street places. It also allows them to park on single and double yellow lines, with certain restrictions relating to the safety of other road users, and where there are no other restrictions in place. That can allow badge holders to access jobs, shops and other services.

We also heard that people misuse badges for financial gain, either by using fraudulent badges or by using badges when the badge holder is not present. Given that in Glasgow city centre, for example, parking costs £3 an hour, we can see the temptation to abuse badges in that way. The temptation is probably increased because the existing law is weak. The bill will provide additional enforcement powers to local authority officials and police officers; allow badges to be cancelled and confiscated in certain circumstances; and provide increased security features, which should reduce forgeries and other forms of abuse.

The bill will make it a criminal offence to display a badge that is not valid—it might have expired, or it might not be being used properly. As Dennis Robertson mentioned, a person’s nipping out to the shops on behalf of a badge holder, for example, does not entitle them to use the badge and nor does a person’s nipping into the shops when the badge holder is in the car. The purpose is to provide the badge holder, and no one else, with access.

The bill will allow the confiscation of badges that are being improperly used. That provoked a little bit of controversy in the evidence, as the badge holder could be inconvenienced as a result of somebody else’s actions. However, we were reassured that, if the badge was confiscated, it would be returned to the badge holder promptly, thus minimising their time without it. I could go on further about that, but Dennis Robertson gave the Parliament a fair show on it.

We heard interesting evidence from civilian enforcement officers about the problems that they face and how they undertake their jobs. Indeed, I understand that, as a result of that evidence, discussions are now taking place to allow the police access to the existing national database of blue badges. That alone could make a significant difference in tackling abuse and could make the task of detecting abusers more efficient.

The bill will also put in place a requirement for all local authorities to have a review system in place to consider appeals from persons who apply for and are refused a blue badge. That provoked the suggestion from the Law Society of Scotland in its written evidence that the provision is not compliant with human rights legislation. It wants the appeal to be to a sheriff, as an independent tribunal.

The committee discussed the issue in oral evidence and the Law Society conceded that its main concern was about the cost of judicially reviewing a local authority’s decision. It accepted that the existence of judicial review makes the provision compliant with human rights. Curiously perhaps, the Law Society was more concerned with legalistic propositions than with convenience and speed for the individual. The committee was content that the proposals in the bill provide for an independent review, minimise costs all round and satisfy the requirements of the European convention on human rights.

It was clear to the committee that at least some misuse of blue badges was inadvertent. I have given a couple of examples that could fall into that category. We asked witnesses how that misuse could be reduced and how badge holders could be better informed of the dos and don’ts of using their badges. All blue badge holders receive a booklet, but many perhaps either do not read it or do not understand it, or it might not be in the best format for them. A multi-agency working group is looking at that. We consider that much could be done to make it easier for badge holders to comply with the law.

The committee unanimously backed the bill. We commend the general principles to the Parliament and look forward to future consideration of a measure that is small but eminently worthy.

16:38

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate in the name of Dennis Robertson, on the Disabled Persons’ Parking Badges (Scotland) Bill. 16:21
Dennis Robertson (Aberdeenshire West) (SNP) SNP
It gives me great pleasure this afternoon to come to the chamber to introduce the Disabled Persons’ Parking Badges (Scotland) Bill, which is more commonly kn...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Kevin Stewart to speak on behalf of the Local Government and Regeneration Committee. You have a maximum of seven minutes, Mr Stewart. 16:31
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I am delighted to be speaking in this debate on behalf of the Local Government and Regeneration Committee, which scrutinised th...
The Minister for Transport and Veterans (Keith Brown) SNP
I am pleased to contribute to the debate and, as Kevin Stewart did, commend Dennis Robertson for the work that he has done so far. I reiterate that the Gover...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
Blue badge holders in my constituency have raised concerns about the rather onerous hoops that they need to go through to apply for the blue badge when it is...
Keith Brown SNP
I have heard other individuals express that concern, which is often the result of welfare reform changes that require people, as Liam McArthur put it, to go ...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to speak on the Disabled Persons’ Parking Badges (Scotland) Bill and I congratulate Dennis Robertson on the progress that he has ma...
Cameron Buchanan (Lothian) (Con) Con
I start by declaring an interest as a blue badge holder, as members will know I am from seeing me stagger into the chamber with my two sticks. I have a great...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We move to the open debate. If members keep their speeches to a maximum of four minutes, I should be able to call everyone who wants to speak. 16:55
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
I congratulate my colleague Dennis Robertson on introducing the bill. I fully agree with the bill’s policy objectives of protecting the rights of badge holde...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I join others in warmly congratulating Dennis Robertson on the progress that he has made with the bill so far. All the speakers have rightly pointed out that...
John Wilson (Central Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I come to the debate as a member of the Local Government and Regeneration Committee and as a member, in the previous parliamentary session, of the Local Gove...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
You are in your final minute.
John Wilson SNP
Both the member in charge of the bill, Dennis Robertson MSP, and the minister said that many disability organisations do not share the concerns that have bee...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We now turn to the closing speeches. I remind members who have participated in the debate that they should be in the chamber for the closing speeches. 17:07
Cameron Buchanan Con
It seems only a minute—or maybe it was four—since I gave my opening speech. Still, what the debate lacked in longevity, it more than made up in its succinct,...
Anne McTaggart (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
As a member of the Local Government and Regeneration Committee, I have had the opportunity to consider in some detail the proposal contained in the bill and ...
Keith Brown SNP
I will try to cover and respond to some of the points that have been raised in the debate. John Wilson talked about enforcement in private car parks, and h...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I thank the minister for giving way, and I note that he and I are wearing twin ties for Enable Scotland. The minister mentioned changes to welfare in his r...
Keith Brown SNP
It is a very good point. I noticed that Kenneth Gibson was also wearing the same tie for Enable Scotland. This is an enabling bill for those who have disabil...
Dennis Robertson SNP
I thank members for taking part in the debate, and I thank the minister for responding to some of the issues that members raised. I can offer some degree of...
Kevin Stewart SNP
It was suggested during evidence taking that it may be an idea to get folk to sign and say that they have understood the guidance. Will the review group look...
Dennis Robertson SNP
Mr Stewart makes a valid point, and it is certainly something that the review group will consider. That is perhaps one aspect of trying to ensure that badge ...