Holyrood, made browsable

Hansard

Every contribution to the Official Report — chamber and committee — searchable in one place. Pulled from data.parliament.scot, indexed for full-text search, linked through to every MSP.

129
Current MSPs
415
MSPs ever elected
13
Parties on record
2,355,091
Hansard contributions
1999–2026
Coverage span
Official Report

Search Hansard contributions

Clear
Showing 0 of 2,355,091 contributions in session S6, 17 Apr 2026 – 17 May 2026. Latest 30 days: 148. Coverage: 12 May 1999 — 14 May 2026.

No contributions match those filters.

← Back to list
Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 05 June 2014

05 Jun 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Improving Entrepreneurship among Women and Young People

I got slightly concerned as I listened to Murdo Fraser because I actually agreed with him on most aspects. It is worrying that the convener of the Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee and I seem to agree on quite a number of matters. Perhaps some of my persuasions are rubbing off on him.

Like Willie Rennie and Murdo Fraser, I am male and no longer young—young at heart perhaps—but I perhaps represent a minority group. The cabinet secretary mentioned the can do initiative, which took me back an earlier stage in my life when I was looking forward to my career. In my case, it would have been so simple to sit back and think about barriers, obstacles, hazards and reasons—often presented by my family and teachers—why I should not get into a certain profession. Maybe it is my stubbornness, but I think that it is about the can-do mentality. We need to realise that; I think that the cabinet secretary probably does, thanks to her social work training days. As someone who did not aspire to a degree but who followed a professional qualification, I am aware that that mentality takes ambition, strength and determination. Our young people have the determination and the qualities that can inspire them to become the entrepreneurs of the future.

We must look not only at where we are today but to the future—the mid to long term. I have been reading Sir Ian Wood’s report, which has just been published. Much of it reflects the can-do mentality to which we can all aspire. However, Sir Ian Wood highlights some of the barriers that prevent some of our young people from taking the initial step. Other members have mentioned some of those barriers, such as the culture. That culture is not just down to the way that we are taught in schools; it is also sometimes embedded in the home and our families. Grandparents tell their grandchildren that they should not go into a certain profession and that they would be better sticking to something else. We need to ensure that we break down those stereotypes.

When I was on the Equal Opportunities Committee, we considered women in work and went back to look at how we project things even at nursery and in the education of our young children—even how we present toys to children. When my two girls were four and were asked what they would like from Santa, they asked for racing cars. I thought that we had broken the mould because they wanted racing cars as opposed to Barbies and, when they got the Barbies in a pram, they dismantled the pram and made it into a go-kart. Perhaps we got rid of the stereotypes and perhaps they were doing things that I had aspired to but never managed to do.

We must consider how to provide the appropriate opportunities for our young people in the early stages. The curriculum for excellence is the pathway for that. It opens doors for many of our young children—boys and girls—so that they can aspire to be what they would like to be. We should not create barriers. We should consider their can-do—what they would like to do—and reinforce that as best we can.

Quite rightly, not every young person will aspire to go to university. If they choose to go down the vocational route, we should applaud that. Murdo Fraser was absolutely right—I take that back; he was right, but I cannot give him an “absolutely”—to say that, in Germany, people are rewarded and applauded for going into vocational education. We need tradesmen such as plumbers, mechanics, engineers and electrical engineers.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
Good afternoon, everyone. The first item of business this afternoon is a debate on motion S4M-10214, in the name of Angela Constance, on improving entreprene...
The Cabinet Secretary for Training, Youth and Women’s Employment (Angela Constance) SNP
I am very pleased to open this debate on promoting entrepreneurship among women and young people. If we are to achieve our potential as a nation, it is impor...
Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
On the very important point about women in business, does the cabinet secretary agree that any policy to encourage enterprise—for females or anyone—has to be...
Angela Constance SNP
I am glad that Ms Marra could turn up to this afternoon’s debate. Once again, we are revisiting some well-rehearsed arguments about college reform. As Ms Mar...
Jenny Marra Lab
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Angela Constance SNP
No, thank you. I am still answering Ms Marra’s question. The move towards full-time courses with recognised qualifications has been to the benefit of young ...
Kezia Dugdale (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Angela Constance SNP
No. I must point out that part-time courses and, indeed, older learners are not being excluded as a result of that. If people are serious about women taking...
Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
First of all, Presiding Officer, I apologise for being slightly late in getting to the chamber this afternoon. This is not the first time that we have come ...
Angela Constance SNP
Does Ms Marra acknowledge that the head count has reduced because the number of full-time equivalents and full-time courses has increased? Does she also ackn...
Jenny Marra Lab
The cabinet secretary can dance on the head of a pin on the issue, but any member of the Parliament who speaks to people in their communities who are on wait...
Fiona McLeod (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP
Does Ms Marra not accept that the number of full-time equivalents is the accepted measure of how many people are at college? That is the measure that is acce...
Jenny Marra Lab
I accept the information that the Scottish funding council has given me, which is that there are 140,000 fewer college places. The environment is much more d...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
As the first man to speak in the debate, which I suspect will have its own gender imbalance, I feel a little outnumbered. However, I am sure that the Presidi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Do not count on it.
Murdo Fraser Con
I welcome the Scottish Government’s giving us the opportunity to debate the important issue of improving entrepreneurship. It is fair to say that, as a count...
Willie Rennie (Mid Scotland and Fife) (LD) LD
It is a pleasure to take part in the debate. I am not especially qualified to do so, as I am not a woman or young any more, but I am ready to stand beside Mu...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I will speak about the early part of the Government motion, which states: “That the Parliament recognises the positive impact of entrepreneurial activity by...
Christina McKelvie (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (SNP) SNP
There are now more female than male graduates, so it is shocking that young women should still be victims of outdated and ingrained chauvinism. At least half...
Kezia Dugdale (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I very much welcome the strategy and the opportunity to debate it. I am pleased to see the cabinet secretary in her place, focusing on the gender aspect of h...
Dennis Robertson (Aberdeenshire West) (SNP) SNP
I got slightly concerned as I listened to Murdo Fraser because I actually agreed with him on most aspects. It is worrying that the convener of the Economy, E...
Jenny Marra Lab
The member makes an interesting point about Germany. Does he agree that the German situation has been helped by legislative measures that put the onus on bus...
Dennis Robertson SNP
The Scottish Government has done an absolutely wonderful job of promoting apprenticeships. There are more than 25,000 apprentices. More can always be done, b...
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
In their speeches—particularly those about their own constituents—members have shown that there is absolutely no lack of talent and ambition among our young ...
Dennis Robertson SNP
Did the women to whom Joan McAlpine refers do that by choice or because they felt that it was the only opportunity given the stereotypical aspects of the trade?
Joan McAlpine SNP
I would say that the women to whom I am referring, who run their own beauty and hairdressing businesses, did that by choice. They felt very passionate about ...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab) Lab
The cabinet secretary said at the beginning of her speech that the enterprise journey begins in school, and I think that we all agree with that. In fact, t...
Angela Constance SNP
I point out that the youth unemployment rate remains at 18.8 per cent, whereas the unemployment rate for women is 5.9 per cent. I do not think for one minute...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
You may take some extra time, Mr Chisholm.
Malcolm Chisholm Lab
Okay. I say, just to finish the point, that if we could have 50 per cent of the funding for women under 25 at the childcare academy and 50 per cent for those...