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Meeting of the Parliament 05 June 2014

05 Jun 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Improving Entrepreneurship among Women and Young People
Rennie, Willie LD Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

It is a pleasure to take part in the debate. I am not especially qualified to do so, as I am not a woman or young any more, but I am ready to stand beside Murdo Fraser in his defence on that side of the debate. [Interruption.] Some are saying that that is not a change.

The debate is a celebration of the potential that we have in Scotland in our women and young people. I agree with a lot of what has been said and put on record my party’s support for the Wood commission’s all-hands-on-deck approach. We need that approach if we are to improve youth employability.

The message from Sir Ian Wood’s report is that giving more young people the chance that they need to get on in life is a collective responsibility. The public, private and third sectors need to play their part, with every school, college, university, business and Government stepping up to the plate. That is truly a real challenge that has been thrown down, but it is a challenge that the Liberal Democrats accept without reservation. In that light, we are pleased to support the Conservative Party’s amendment.

There is no doubting the talents and the potential of women and young people across Scotland, but we need to do much more to unlock that potential to ensure that every individual has the opportunity to fulfil it. I recognise much of what the minister said about the rich support network that is out there to try to nurture support so that young people can achieve their potential with the range of organisations and facilities that she outlined.

Just as we recognise the work that the Scottish Government is doing in the area, it is worth recognising some of the significant changes that have happened at the UK level that assist us in achieving that ambition. The shared, flexible parental leave that the coalition Government at Westminster brought in should be welcomed as a means by which both parents can keep strong links with their workplaces and organisations can be helped to attract and retain women employees. Likewise, tax-free childcare will help working families across Scotland. In the latest budget, the UK Government increased the cost cap in tax-free childcare to £10,000. That means that families will receive up to £2,000 of childcare support per child, which is two thirds more than was originally planned. That approach very much complements the work that the Scottish Government has done on expanding childcare and nursery education, and we support it.

However, I want to concentrate on the STEM subjects, which, as someone who studied biology, is an area that is close to my heart. It is a hugely valuable area economically, but we need to put in an awful lot more effort to unlock the potential of and retain female STEM students and professionals. Around two thirds of those who study life sciences in further, higher and postgraduate education are women, but that is not reflected in the workplace, where just 46 per cent of employees are female. The rate of loss of women in the move from higher education to employment in STEM is more than double the rate for their male counterparts, with 73 per cent of female graduates leaving the STEM industry. What is more, 21 per cent of female graduates are unemployed. That is a massive loss to Scotland’s skill base, when the STEM and life sciences sectors are flourishing.

At board level, in 2010, fewer than one in five directors of life sciences companies in Scotland were female and only 9 per cent of professors in STEM subjects were women. The number of women declines rapidly the further up the ladder one looks in the university sector. “Tapping all our Talents—Women in science, technology, engineering and mathematics: a strategy for Scotland”, which was published by the Royal Society of Edinburgh in 2012, concluded that that wasted female talent is

“a serious loss across the whole economy”

and that

“a doubling of women’s high-level skill contribution to the economy would be worth as much as £170 million per annum to Scotland”.

More needs to be done to ensure that that talent is retained, valued and recognised in the STEM sector.

A lot of good work has already been done. A recent Equate Scotland conference focused on supporting and developing female STEM staff and students and highlighted the positive impact of the Athena SWAN recognition scheme. At an industry level, the pharmaceutical company GlaxoSmithKline has signed the WISE chief executive officer charter, to demonstrate the company’s active support for increasing the participation of women at all levels in STEM. We should recognise that and celebrate it.

The Labour Party amendment refers to the massive hit that college places have taken under the Government. Colleges are essential for training and skills. We need to ensure that high-quality further education continues to be an option in Scotland. Lifelong learning and the ability to upskill are essential and are particularly valuable in areas such as STEM, as courses can be focused to meet specific employer demands or to provide refresher training for those who have taken a career break. We will support Labour’s amendment.

Addressing the gender imbalance in STEM will take the same kind of all-hands-on-deck approach as the Wood commission has espoused for tackling youth employment. We should embrace both those challenges without hesitation. By doing so, we will unlock not just the individual potential of women and young people but the valuable contribution that they can make to Scotland’s skill base and our economy.

15:08

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
Good afternoon, everyone. The first item of business this afternoon is a debate on motion S4M-10214, in the name of Angela Constance, on improving entreprene...
The Cabinet Secretary for Training, Youth and Women’s Employment (Angela Constance) SNP
I am very pleased to open this debate on promoting entrepreneurship among women and young people. If we are to achieve our potential as a nation, it is impor...
Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
On the very important point about women in business, does the cabinet secretary agree that any policy to encourage enterprise—for females or anyone—has to be...
Angela Constance SNP
I am glad that Ms Marra could turn up to this afternoon’s debate. Once again, we are revisiting some well-rehearsed arguments about college reform. As Ms Mar...
Jenny Marra Lab
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Angela Constance SNP
No, thank you. I am still answering Ms Marra’s question. The move towards full-time courses with recognised qualifications has been to the benefit of young ...
Kezia Dugdale (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Angela Constance SNP
No. I must point out that part-time courses and, indeed, older learners are not being excluded as a result of that. If people are serious about women taking...
Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
First of all, Presiding Officer, I apologise for being slightly late in getting to the chamber this afternoon. This is not the first time that we have come ...
Angela Constance SNP
Does Ms Marra acknowledge that the head count has reduced because the number of full-time equivalents and full-time courses has increased? Does she also ackn...
Jenny Marra Lab
The cabinet secretary can dance on the head of a pin on the issue, but any member of the Parliament who speaks to people in their communities who are on wait...
Fiona McLeod (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP
Does Ms Marra not accept that the number of full-time equivalents is the accepted measure of how many people are at college? That is the measure that is acce...
Jenny Marra Lab
I accept the information that the Scottish funding council has given me, which is that there are 140,000 fewer college places. The environment is much more d...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
As the first man to speak in the debate, which I suspect will have its own gender imbalance, I feel a little outnumbered. However, I am sure that the Presidi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Do not count on it.
Murdo Fraser Con
I welcome the Scottish Government’s giving us the opportunity to debate the important issue of improving entrepreneurship. It is fair to say that, as a count...
Willie Rennie (Mid Scotland and Fife) (LD) LD
It is a pleasure to take part in the debate. I am not especially qualified to do so, as I am not a woman or young any more, but I am ready to stand beside Mu...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I will speak about the early part of the Government motion, which states: “That the Parliament recognises the positive impact of entrepreneurial activity by...
Christina McKelvie (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (SNP) SNP
There are now more female than male graduates, so it is shocking that young women should still be victims of outdated and ingrained chauvinism. At least half...
Kezia Dugdale (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I very much welcome the strategy and the opportunity to debate it. I am pleased to see the cabinet secretary in her place, focusing on the gender aspect of h...
Dennis Robertson (Aberdeenshire West) (SNP) SNP
I got slightly concerned as I listened to Murdo Fraser because I actually agreed with him on most aspects. It is worrying that the convener of the Economy, E...
Jenny Marra Lab
The member makes an interesting point about Germany. Does he agree that the German situation has been helped by legislative measures that put the onus on bus...
Dennis Robertson SNP
The Scottish Government has done an absolutely wonderful job of promoting apprenticeships. There are more than 25,000 apprentices. More can always be done, b...
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
In their speeches—particularly those about their own constituents—members have shown that there is absolutely no lack of talent and ambition among our young ...
Dennis Robertson SNP
Did the women to whom Joan McAlpine refers do that by choice or because they felt that it was the only opportunity given the stereotypical aspects of the trade?
Joan McAlpine SNP
I would say that the women to whom I am referring, who run their own beauty and hairdressing businesses, did that by choice. They felt very passionate about ...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab) Lab
The cabinet secretary said at the beginning of her speech that the enterprise journey begins in school, and I think that we all agree with that. In fact, t...
Angela Constance SNP
I point out that the youth unemployment rate remains at 18.8 per cent, whereas the unemployment rate for women is 5.9 per cent. I do not think for one minute...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
You may take some extra time, Mr Chisholm.
Malcolm Chisholm Lab
Okay. I say, just to finish the point, that if we could have 50 per cent of the funding for women under 25 at the childcare academy and 50 per cent for those...