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Meeting of the Parliament 07 May 2014

07 May 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Energy and Climate Change
Swinney, John SNP Perthshire North Watch on SPTV

The key point that I would make to Alison Johnstone is that all these issues must be considered within our framework to reduce climate change. I have just commented on the importance of realising our climate change targets, so any action that is taken on the development of energy resources must, in the first place, be compatible with the robust regulatory framework that we have put in place for the regulation of all these areas and, secondly, must also enable us to secure the necessary progress that is required on our climate change targets.

The Government continues to keep the regulatory framework under review. For example, we have recognised that there is a significant amount of scientific evidence available on unconventionals and, to ensure that that information is assessed effectively, the Scottish Government has convened an independent expert scientific panel to review the evidence. Of course, that will be instrumental in informing any further decisions that the Government takes and it will have a bearing on Scottish planning policy, which is currently under review and will be the subject of conclusions by the Minister for Local Government and Planning in due course, along with the national planning framework, which has attracted interest from parliamentary committees.

The Government has in place robust arrangements to ensure that these issues are dealt with effectively and satisfactorily and that we fulfil our obligations on emissions reduction under the world-leading climate change legislation that the Parliament passed.

I move amendment S4M-09927.3, to leave out from “the significant” to end and insert:

“that Scotland has a rich diversity of energy sources including a very successful oil and gas sector and growing expertise in renewables including wind, wave and tidal; welcomes Scotland’s evidence-based approach to unconventional fossil fuels; supports the ongoing review of the scientific evidence by the expert scientific panel in relation to unconventional fossil fuels and looks forward to its report; welcomes the Scottish Government’s announcement of a strengthening of Scottish planning policy, coming into force in June 2014, in relation to unconventional fossil fuel extraction as an indication that the concerns of environmental campaigners and local communities are taken seriously; further welcomes the recent UK Committee on Climate Change report that praised Scottish progress in decarbonising its energy sector; notes that almost half of Scotland’s electricity is now delivered from renewables, and further notes that Scotland has the world’s leading climate change legislation and the largest carbon emission reductions in western Europe.”

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In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-09927, in the name of Alison Johnstone, on energy and climate change. 15:11
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green) Green
It is generally agreed that our energy policy should deliver three things: a secure supply; energy at an affordable cost; and energy that is low in climate-c...
The Cabinet Secretary for Finance, Employment and Sustainable Growth (John Swinney) SNP
I welcome the debate that the Green Party has initiated today on energy and climate change. It provides an opportunity for us to consider the range of measur...
Iain Gray (East Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Mr Swinney knows that I agree with him on the importance of the oil and gas sector. Can he enlighten us as to when he intends to bring forward his revised es...
John Swinney SNP
I told Parliament that I would bring those forward in the coming weeks and that is exactly what I intend to do to assist the debate. While we recognise the ...
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
In view of recent announcements by electricity companies about the offshore renewables sector, does the cabinet secretary share any of my concerns about how ...
John Swinney SNP
I certainly do not think that the uncertainty that has been created by the electricity market reform process undertaken by the UK Government has helped inves...
Alison Johnstone Green
Although it may be possible to prove that extraction is safe, it simply will not be possible to prove that burning the fuel that is extracted is safe. Does t...
John Swinney SNP
The key point that I would make to Alison Johnstone is that all these issues must be considered within our framework to reduce climate change. I have just co...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
I advise members that there is no extra time available this afternoon, so interventions should be contained within speeches. 15:28
Iain Gray (East Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I start by congratulating Alison Johnstone on bringing the debate to the chamber, because it is an important and current policy issue that, until now, we hav...
Alison Johnstone Green
Is Iain Gray aware that, in areas where unconventional gas extraction occurs, coal-bed methane extraction leads to hydraulic fracturing in 40 per cent of cases?
Iain Gray Lab
They are two different processes, as Ms Johnstone herself pointed out when she complained that one can move easily to the other in the regulatory framework. ...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I thank the Scottish Greens for giving us the opportunity this afternoon to debate the extraction of unconventional gas throughout Scotland. I commend Alison...
Graeme Dey (Angus South) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Murdo Fraser Con
No, thank you. When we actually look at public opinion, we see that not everyone is buying that nonsense. According the latest DECC public opinion tracker, ...
Alison Johnstone Green
Will the member give way?
Murdo Fraser Con
No, I need to make some progress. We should remember that there is nothing new about fracking for shale gas and extracting coal seam gas in Scotland. Back i...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We come to the open debate. We are very tight for time, with speeches of a maximum of four minutes. 15:38
Rob Gibson (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) SNP
As it says in the Scottish National Party amendment, “Scotland has a rich diversity of energy sources including a very successful oil and gas sector and gr...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I am afraid that you must close now.
Rob Gibson SNP
A recent poll for DECC showed that 50 per cent of Tories would rather live near a wind farm than have fracking in their back yard. Many more people across Sc...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
As stated in Labour’s amendment, Scotland needs a robust and balanced energy policy that strives to match our energy needs with our climate change and carbon...
Mike MacKenzie (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the Scottish Government’s precautionary approach to hydraulic fracturing and unconventional gas extraction and, therefore, I have some sympathy—but...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Ind) Ind
Will Mike MacKenzie take an intervention?
Mike MacKenzie SNP
No—I am sorry but I am short of time. For instance, I was disappointed to hear Patrick Harvie dismiss in a recent debate the opportunity presented by carbon...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
Will Mike Mackenzie give way?
Mike MacKenzie SNP
No, I am not taking interventions because I am short of time. Interruption. Sorry—another occasion, Mr Harvie. In acquiring the expertise to develop world-...
Marco Biagi (Edinburgh Central) (SNP) SNP
To members of the Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee, this is a very familiar topic, although we are used to seeing Murdo Fraser curb his great enthusiasm...
Jamie McGrigor (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
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