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Meeting of the Parliament 19 August 2014

19 Aug 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Disabled Persons’ Parking Badges (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Stevenson, Stewart SNP Banffshire and Buchan Coast Watch on SPTV

Like others, I congratulate Dennis Robertson on bringing forward the bill, which I am sure is going to be successful at 17:50.

As a bill, it is perhaps a return to the way in which the old Scots Parliament legislated. The Common Good Act 1491 was a mere four lines long. Dennis Robertson’s bill has the clarity in conception, the purity of purpose and the economy of expression that is contained in a mere four lines in the Common Good Act. Of course, the member’s bill process in this Parliament lends itself to tightly focused and clearly expressed and articulated pieces of legislation. I think that others might usefully learn from that process, which is open to all, even if Sandra White may be one of those who are disappointed.

The core of the Disabled Persons’ Parking Badges (Scotland) Bill is to improve life for people with some disability that requires them to have help with parking. We need to think in terms of the dignity of the people who have a disability. My experience of that was in the early 1970s when a couple of colleagues who were blind were able, for the very first time, to receive their bank statements in Braille. Up to that point other people had had to read their bank statements to them, and that was a loss of dignity because their confidential information had perforce to be shared with others.

By the same token, when we ensure that there is adequate parking at the end of what may be an essential journey or a leisure journey—it is not for us to decide—and an actual parking place for someone who needs it because they are disabled, we confer upon that person the dignity that we are all entitled to expect. I think that the bill is excellent because it ensures that we share more widely the dignity to which we are all entitled.

There has been a bit of discussion about the powers of the enforcement officers and the matter of a uniform. In 1968, my summer job as a student was as a water bailiff. I had a warrant card, I could arrest people and I had the untrammelled right of entry into any premises without cause shown, but I had no uniform. That had been the case for water bailiffs for a very long time. Such people can have powers without having a uniform and they can be justly provided, and people were used to the idea that water bailiffs did not have uniforms. The difference in this case, of course, is that enforcement officers will be new. We therefore need to have some tact and diplomacy in the early days in which they operate.

Quite properly, Inclusion Scotland has focused on the potential for enforcement officers, traffic wardens and policemen to confiscate blue badges unnecessarily and inappropriately. I think that Inclusion Scotland has a valid point. That is why, in the introduction of an enforcement regime that will contribute enormously to people with disabilities, we need to be careful how we do it.

People who have disabilities do not necessarily see themselves as other parts of society might see them. For example, my mother was 4 foot 10 and a half and she walked with elbow crutches for most of her adult life, but it was different when she got behind the wheel of the Mini Cooper S that she drove. I remember being with her in the car—before Barbara Castle introduced the universal speed limit—as she did 100mph down the Baiglie straight.

Transport can sometimes be transformative; it was for my mother. Let us make sure that in providing parking at the end of the journey—people should not travel at 100mph as it diminishes the chance of getting there—we will enhance the lives of certain people and give them the dignity that they deserve.

17:13

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-10783, in the name of Dennis Robertson, on the Disabled Persons’ Parking Badges (Scotland) Bill. 16:42
Dennis Robertson (Aberdeenshire West) (SNP) SNP
It has been a great privilege for me to have been able to take forward the Disabled Persons’ Parking Badges (Scotland) Bill as a member’s bill. I would like ...
The Minister for Transport and Veterans (Keith Brown) SNP
I am pleased to support Dennis Robertson and to commend him for the work that he has undertaken in developing the bill. I thank the Local Government and Re...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to speak on the Disabled Persons’ Parking Badges (Scotland) Bill at stage 3, and I congratulate Dennis Robertson on the progress th...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
Can local government officers enforce in places such as supermarket car parks or private car parks where there might be an abuse, or can they do so only in p...
Mark Griffin Lab
My understanding is that private operators would need to come to some sort of agreement with local authorities or the police to enforce the provisions in a p...
Cameron Buchanan (Lothian) (Con) Con
I should start by redeclaring an interest as a blue badge holder. As a blue badge holder and a fellow MSP, I reiterate my congratulations to Dennis Robertson...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Before we move on to the open debate, I am minded to accept a motion without notice on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau. Motion moved, That, under Rule 1...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
Like others, I congratulate Dennis Robertson on bringing forward the bill, which I am sure is going to be successful at 17:50. As a bill, it is perhaps a re...
Anne McTaggart (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
As a member of the Local Government and Regeneration Committee, I have had ample opportunity to consider in detail the proposals in the bill and the subseque...
Jim Hume (South Scotland) (LD) LD
I welcome the opportunity to participate in the final stage of the bill, and I congratulate Dennis Robertson on all his good work in bringing the bill this f...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
I pay tribute to Dennis Robertson for introducing the bill, which I hope will receive unanimous support. Like many other members, I realise that it is not al...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
I call Cameron Buchanan. You have a generous four minutes, Mr Buchanan. 17:26
Cameron Buchanan Con
There are still many anomalies with blue badge parking that we need to consider. For example, holders sometimes have to pay parking fees and there is an issu...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I call Mark Griffin. You have an even more generous four minutes, Mr Griffin. 17:27
Mark Griffin Lab
The debate has been relatively short, and that was certainly a short speech from Cameron Buchanan. Mine will not be quite so short. The debate has been cons...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I call the minister, Keith Brown, to wind up the debate on behalf of the Government. Minister, you have a very generous six minutes. 17:31
Keith Brown SNP
Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. I thank members for an informed and interesting debate. There has been a degree of consensus—not entirely by acciden...
Kevin Stewart SNP
The minister again mentioned the two working groups that are considering various aspects. Will the Parliament have an opportunity to consider and help improv...
Keith Brown SNP
I am happy to give the undertaking that we will look into how best we can involve the Parliament in that process, not least because the Local Government and ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Like the minister, I would like to see the demise of personal independence payments, which are really frightening some folk. I am pleased that the Scottish G...
Keith Brown SNP
I am more than happy to consider that further. We have done a great deal of work, because we know how important the issue is. To put the matter in plain term...
Stewart Stevenson SNP
Before the minister finishes, will he take an intervention?
Keith Brown SNP
As long as it is not an application to be a non-uniformed officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Anything is possible with Mr Stevenson.
Stewart Stevenson SNP
Will the minister inform us a little bit about the enforcement process when badges are validated? We heard in the debate that the enforcement officer would r...
Keith Brown SNP
I would not want to steal Dennis Robertson’s thunder—he might want to respond to those points—but some of those challenges have been dealt with in the most r...
The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
I call Dennis Robertson to wind up the debate. Mr Robertson, you have eight minutes. 17:42
Dennis Robertson SNP
In winding up, I first extend my sincere thanks to those who managed to speak during this short, but very important, debate. I also offer my genuine thanks t...