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Meeting of the Parliament 19 August 2014

19 Aug 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Disabled Persons’ Parking Badges (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3

It has been a great privilege for me to have been able to take forward the Disabled Persons’ Parking Badges (Scotland) Bill as a member’s bill. I would like to begin by inviting members who believe that they might not get an opportunity to participate in the debate to feel free to intervene on me if they have a specific question.

The Disabled Persons’ Parking Badges (Scotland) Bill is an empowering bill: it will empower our people with disabilities to lead full and fulfilling lives by enabling them to exercise their right to use the blue badge to which they are entitled to find legitimate parking spaces in our towns and cities.

I am very grateful to the Local Government and Regeneration Committee for scrutinising the bill at stages 1 and 2. I believe that the scrutiny that it undertook was fair, transparent and just. It considered in great depth questions that many people have been asking for quite some time. Why are we only now trying to ensure that people who have a blue badge can use it in a manner that gives them the freedom that I mentioned?

At stage 2, Inclusion Scotland lodged some amendments, and I am grateful to the committee for scrutinising them and giving them a great deal of consideration. I think that the conclusion was that, during the consultation process, people with disabilities believed that proceeding to enact the bill was the right and proper thing to do.

The consultation allowed me to listen to people with disabilities across Scotland. In the consultation meetings that we had in Aberdeen, Glasgow and here in Edinburgh, people with disabilities and organisations representing them were afforded the opportunity to ask important and appropriate questions about what was being proposed to ensure that we took forward what the bill was intended to achieve.

Under the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act 1970, which introduced what was then the orange badge, people with disabilities were for the first time given concessions with regard to parking rights. However, it quickly became clear that the system was open to abuse. People came up with counterfeit badges, badges were being openly transferred, and third-party misuse was rife. It was felt that the legislation needed to be tightened up, and steps in that direction have been taken throughout the years. I now believe that the current badge system is robust, and, because of the unique number that each badge has, there should be little or no opportunity for fraudulent behaviour or copying.

In fact, the badge’s unique number is very important, because it will enable those who look at it, whether they be the police, traffic wardens or other local authority representatives who are charged with enforcing the system, to find out the badge’s legitimate owner. If they suspect that a badge is being misused, they can run a check. If, for example, the person using the vehicle is in their early 20s and the badge has been issued to someone in their 80s, the people who enforce the system will have every right to approach the person in question and ask whether the badge is legitimate or whether it is being misappropriated.

It is already illegal to use a badge that should have been returned because, for example, of the owner’s death, or to use a badge that has been lost or stolen, so people must be made aware that such actions are criminal offences. Indeed, it is only right and proper that people with disabilities themselves take some responsibility for their blue badges. During the consultation process, it became very clear that many people who have a blue badge were not aware of the rules and regulations about their use. One of the biggest complaints that we hear is that people think that third-party misuse is okay because the person who is using the badge is, say, going to the shops on behalf of the person with the disability. Of course, that is not the purpose of the badge, but if people with disabilities think that that sort of thing is okay, that suggests that we need to think about educating those people about the use of badges.

During the consultation process, we decided that it would be in the best interests of people with disabilities to set up two working groups. Those groups include representation from Police Scotland, local authorities and people with disabilities, and we are looking at producing for those who are issued with a blue badge something that will be an easy read that will make things clear and which will give, say, the top 10 tips for its use.

My thanks go to people with disabilities because, without the consultation process and their guidance, we would not be at the stage that we are at today.

Why do we need the bill? We need it because people think that it is okay to park in disabled parking spaces without a blue badge. As I said, people also think that third-party misuse of a blue badge is okay, although it is not. We as a society should not tolerate that. We should look at the impact of such misuse on people with disabilities. When someone misuses a badge, they do not just take a parking space; they also deny a parking space to someone with a disability. When that person is denied a parking space, they might have to return home and might not be able to do what they went into town for, whether that be leisure, pleasure or business—it makes no difference. People need to understand that they are not just taking a parking space that was available; they are denying a parking space to someone with a disability who is looking for one.

Just the other week, someone said to me, “I know it’s wrong, but I was in a hurry—I was going to be late for work. I couldn’t find a parking space, so I just parked in the blue badge space.” Such excuses should not be acceptable to us. They are not acceptable to me and I do not think that they are acceptable to the Parliament. I sincerely hope that we will hear other examples this afternoon that show why we need to pass the bill.

I move,

That the Parliament agrees that the Disabled Persons’ Parking Badges (Scotland) Bill be passed.

16:52

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-10783, in the name of Dennis Robertson, on the Disabled Persons’ Parking Badges (Scotland) Bill. 16:42
Dennis Robertson (Aberdeenshire West) (SNP) SNP
It has been a great privilege for me to have been able to take forward the Disabled Persons’ Parking Badges (Scotland) Bill as a member’s bill. I would like ...
The Minister for Transport and Veterans (Keith Brown) SNP
I am pleased to support Dennis Robertson and to commend him for the work that he has undertaken in developing the bill. I thank the Local Government and Re...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to speak on the Disabled Persons’ Parking Badges (Scotland) Bill at stage 3, and I congratulate Dennis Robertson on the progress th...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
Can local government officers enforce in places such as supermarket car parks or private car parks where there might be an abuse, or can they do so only in p...
Mark Griffin Lab
My understanding is that private operators would need to come to some sort of agreement with local authorities or the police to enforce the provisions in a p...
Cameron Buchanan (Lothian) (Con) Con
I should start by redeclaring an interest as a blue badge holder. As a blue badge holder and a fellow MSP, I reiterate my congratulations to Dennis Robertson...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Before we move on to the open debate, I am minded to accept a motion without notice on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau. Motion moved, That, under Rule 1...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
Like others, I congratulate Dennis Robertson on bringing forward the bill, which I am sure is going to be successful at 17:50. As a bill, it is perhaps a re...
Anne McTaggart (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
As a member of the Local Government and Regeneration Committee, I have had ample opportunity to consider in detail the proposals in the bill and the subseque...
Jim Hume (South Scotland) (LD) LD
I welcome the opportunity to participate in the final stage of the bill, and I congratulate Dennis Robertson on all his good work in bringing the bill this f...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
I pay tribute to Dennis Robertson for introducing the bill, which I hope will receive unanimous support. Like many other members, I realise that it is not al...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
I call Cameron Buchanan. You have a generous four minutes, Mr Buchanan. 17:26
Cameron Buchanan Con
There are still many anomalies with blue badge parking that we need to consider. For example, holders sometimes have to pay parking fees and there is an issu...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I call Mark Griffin. You have an even more generous four minutes, Mr Griffin. 17:27
Mark Griffin Lab
The debate has been relatively short, and that was certainly a short speech from Cameron Buchanan. Mine will not be quite so short. The debate has been cons...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I call the minister, Keith Brown, to wind up the debate on behalf of the Government. Minister, you have a very generous six minutes. 17:31
Keith Brown SNP
Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. I thank members for an informed and interesting debate. There has been a degree of consensus—not entirely by acciden...
Kevin Stewart SNP
The minister again mentioned the two working groups that are considering various aspects. Will the Parliament have an opportunity to consider and help improv...
Keith Brown SNP
I am happy to give the undertaking that we will look into how best we can involve the Parliament in that process, not least because the Local Government and ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Like the minister, I would like to see the demise of personal independence payments, which are really frightening some folk. I am pleased that the Scottish G...
Keith Brown SNP
I am more than happy to consider that further. We have done a great deal of work, because we know how important the issue is. To put the matter in plain term...
Stewart Stevenson SNP
Before the minister finishes, will he take an intervention?
Keith Brown SNP
As long as it is not an application to be a non-uniformed officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Anything is possible with Mr Stevenson.
Stewart Stevenson SNP
Will the minister inform us a little bit about the enforcement process when badges are validated? We heard in the debate that the enforcement officer would r...
Keith Brown SNP
I would not want to steal Dennis Robertson’s thunder—he might want to respond to those points—but some of those challenges have been dealt with in the most r...
The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
I call Dennis Robertson to wind up the debate. Mr Robertson, you have eight minutes. 17:42
Dennis Robertson SNP
In winding up, I first extend my sincere thanks to those who managed to speak during this short, but very important, debate. I also offer my genuine thanks t...