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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 21 May 2014

21 May 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Courts Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
McInnes, Alison LD North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

Following Lord Gill’s review of the civil courts, he described the existing system as

“failing to deliver justice ... expeditiously, economically or efficiently.”

Scottish Liberal Democrats agree with many of his recommendations, which compel Parliament to modernise Scotland’s court structures and procedures, and to equip them to better respond to the demands that are placed on them. However, in the few minutes that are available, I will focus on just some of the issues that the substantial package of reforms has inevitably presented.

One of the most contentious issues is that of the proposed jurisdictions of the Court of Session and the sheriff court. There now appears to be a consensus that increasing the privative jurisdiction of the sheriff courts to £150,000 would set the bar far too high. Although transferring some business from the Court of Session is not objectionable, that would be too significant a leap from the existing £5,000 threshold and would be considerably higher than the equivalent limits elsewhere in the United Kingdom. The evidence that informed the revised jurisdiction was scant, and the Scottish Parliament information centre said that even what evidence there is should be “treated with care”.

Furthermore, organisations from Unison to the Faculty of Advocates are worried that the proposed shift in business will remove the right of many litigants to be routinely represented by counsel, which would have implications not only for access to justice but for the possibility of attaining early and efficient settlement of cases. I am therefore grateful to the minister for indicating that she is open to considering a lower limit at stage 2.

During our stage 1 deliberations, I also queried the appropriateness of sections 88(4) to 88(6), which contain three tests to help to establish whether to remit a case to the Court of Session. I am pleased that Lord Gill subsequently agreed that the tests were “too high” and

“almost certainly ... in breach of the European Convention on Human Rights.”

Again, I appreciate the minister’s commitment to heed that advice and to lodge amendments on that at stage 2.

I suggest that we must also return to other issues, including the need to ensure that sheriff specialisation is properly developed in rural areas, and whether the limit for bringing applications for judicial review is overly restrictive, particularly in the light of the fact that the Scottish Government has confirmed its understanding that the time limit will supersede the time limits in the Scotland Act 1998 and the Human Rights Act 1998, so that judicial reviews on human rights grounds will have to be brought within three months, rather than within the current time limit of one year.

The committee, along with my colleagues Liam McArthur and Tavish Scott, is concerned about the impact that the abolition of honorary sheriffs, who are crucial in the absence of a resident sheriff, could have on island and remote communities. We believe that robust alternatives must be established to prevent the further erosion of locally delivered justice.

It would be remiss not to note that more local courts will shortly close. Courts in 10 towns have already shut and those in Stonehaven, Arbroath and Cupar will follow next Friday. Whether the remaining courts, such as Aberdeen, which is already close to capacity, will be able to cope with the increase in business that the bill could initiate, as well as the influx of business from the closure of their neighbours, remains to be seen.

Many of the recommendations of the Gill review are sound. There is broad consensus on the need to address the disproportionate cost of litigation, to increase specialisation among courts and judges, and to improve efficiency through adopting a case management approach to the conduct and disposal of court business. However, I share the concerns that the Finance Committee expressed in its report on the bill that the financial memorandum is at best incoherent and at worst sorely deficient. The committee’s observations on the need to clarify how the purported costs and savings will be achieved—for example, on the specialist personal injury court and legal aid—must be heeded.

I am therefore disappointed that the Scottish Government has not provided an update, let alone a full response, to the Finance Committee’s concerns prior to the debate. In the absence of that, Scottish Liberal Democrats will support the general principles of the bill, but we cannot endorse the financial memorandum, on the basis that it has not been shown to be sufficiently robust.

17:09

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
I call Kenny MacAskill to speak to and move the motion in the name of Roseanna Cunningham. Cabinet secretary, you have a maximum of 10 minutes but less would...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Kenny MacAskill) SNP
I am delighted to open this stage 1 debate on the Courts Reform (Scotland) Bill. I record my thanks to the Justice Committee for its consideration of the bil...
Duncan McNeil (Greenock and Inverclyde) (Lab) Lab
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Kenny MacAskill SNP
That is a fair point. It is important to put on record that the whole purpose of Lord Gill’s review is to ensure that we get access to justice because the sy...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Thank you. I advise members that we are very tight for time. I call Christine Grahame to speak on behalf of the Justice Committee. You have a maximum of seve...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to speak on behalf of the Justice Committee on this significant and complex bill, which, thankfully, has been without huge controve...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
On behalf of the Labour members of the Justice Committee, I thank the clerks, and all the witnesses who gave evidence to the committee. I assure the Scottis...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
Could the member advise whether the committee sought views on the concerns that have been raised, certainly in my constituency, about the removal of honorary...
Elaine Murray Lab
That was part of the committee’s report—we considered that issue.
Christine Grahame SNP
It was in my speech but I had to cut it out because my time was cut.
Elaine Murray Lab
Congestion in the sheriff courts is likely therefore to persist for some time. We are concerned that if the requirement for corroboration is abolished, as th...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
The bill represents years of endeavour by the Scottish civil courts review, which Lord President Gill led, and will implement overdue reforms to Scotland’s c...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We turn to the open debate. We are very tight for time. Speeches will be a maximum of four minutes. 16:52
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
This is an important debate and I wish that we had more time for it. Yesterday, as the convener said, the committee went up town for a breath of fresh air....
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Thank you very much. I am afraid that every second counts in the debate. Graeme Pearson, you have four minutes. 16:56
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Thank you for allowing me to contribute this afternoon, Presiding Officer. I am pleased that section 69 of the Enterprise and Regulatory Reform Act 2013 has...
Christine Grahame SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Graeme Pearson Lab
I am sorry—I am out of time. The advocate’s role in the process is important. The dean of the Faculty of Advocates raised an important issue about the foren...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Thank you. I am afraid that if members go over time by a few seconds, we will lose some members from the debate. 17:00
Roderick Campbell (North East Fife) (SNP) SNP
I refer members to my entry in the register of interests as a member of the Faculty of Advocates. There is, as the convener of the Justice Committee suggest...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
Following Lord Gill’s review of the civil courts, he described the existing system as “failing to deliver justice ... expeditiously, economically or efficie...
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
I thank the previous speakers for their comprehensive speeches. In fact, they were so comprehensive that they have left with me with very little to add, but ...
John Pentland (Motherwell and Wishaw) (Lab) Lab
There is general support for court reform. Yes, we want to modernise Scottish courts; yes, we want to make the system more efficient; and yes, we want it to ...
Nigel Don (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) SNP
I feel that I am something of an interloper in this debate, as I was not on the Justice Committee through the process, but the subject is fascinating and I w...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab) Lab
I am on the Finance Committee, which looked at the bill’s financial memorandum. It seems to me that there are three major mysteries and a few minor mysteries...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
Twenty seconds.
Malcolm Chisholm Lab
I will make three minor points. It was flagged up that there will be substantial costs in creating a new training programme for specialist sheriffs, that the...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Many thanks. 17:22
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Ind) Ind
It is a welcome focus for the Justice Committee to be looking at civil rather than criminal matters. Like my colleagues, I support the principles of the bill...