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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 21 May 2014

21 May 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Motion of No Confidence
Lamont, John Con Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire Watch on SPTV

A motion of no confidence is a very serious matter and not one that the Scottish Conservatives take lightly. After careful consideration, we will be supporting calls for Alex Neil to resign, for the simple reason that we believe that it cannot be acceptable for a minister to come to the chamber and allow Parliament to be misled.

We have all seen the evidence, but it is worth going over once again. On 26 September 2012, Alex Neil told Parliament that he believed that NHS Lanarkshire was revising its plans on mental health services at Monklands. A few hours later, he announced that he would be removing himself from the formal decision-making process surrounding the plan, because of his constituency interests.

That was all accepted in good faith but, thanks to a freedom of information request, we now know that, five hours before addressing Parliament, Alex Neil’s private secretary had emailed a civil servant in the health department. That email could not have been clearer. Sent to health officials in the Scottish Government, it declared that Mr Neil was clear that the mental health facilities should be retained. It concluded:

“The Cabinet Secretary has asked that you seek agreement from NHS Lanarkshire to reconfigure their plans accordingly.”

Astonishingly, even Michael Matheson was copied into the email. So, in the morning, he was made aware that the decision to retain Monklands had already been made by his superior yet, that very afternoon, he was told that the decision over Monklands was being delegated to him.

It is of course the right of every member of the Parliament, be they a minister or not, to oppose decisions that affect their constituents, and we do not disagree that, as a newly appointed minister, Mr Neil was within his rights to reconsider decisions that his predecessor had taken. However, the issue here is not about the rights and wrongs of closing medical facilities at Monklands, and nor is it about Mr Neil’s competence in his job. The issue at hand is a cabinet secretary who ordered his officials to do one thing in the morning and then decided consciously not to reveal that fact to Parliament in the afternoon.

I suggest that this is a sad instance of a minister deliberately allowing an untruth to gain credence in order to avoid difficult questions about his position. Mr Neil should have told Parliament that afternoon that he had just told NHS Lanarkshire to “reconfigure their plans”. That he did not do so was not just a dereliction of duty; it now looks suspiciously like a tacit admission that he knew that he was doing something underhand and wrong—it is as simple as that.

The fact is that the investigation that the First Minister carried out into the case failed utterly to address that point. The First Minister said that the health secretary acted “perfectly properly”. His defence of Mr Neil goes on to note that Mr Neil was concerned over a conflict of interest, but nowhere in the First Minister’s letter exonerating Mr Neil is the key point raised—that, by the time that Mr Neil raised his concerns about a conflict of interest, his wishes had already been made clear to NHS Lanarkshire. Nowhere is there acknowledgement of the fact that Mr Neil made the decision and then tried to wash his hands of it. Now, by refusing to sack his health secretary, the First Minister is putting politics above the Parliament.

The whole episode is symptomatic of the SNP’s disregard for the Parliament, particularly in the run-up to the independence referendum. It gives us in the Conservatives no pleasure to conclude that, in this instance, the cabinet secretary deliberately ensured that Parliament was misled. As he clearly did so, we can no longer have confidence in him in carrying out his duties, so we support the motion of no confidence.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-10088, in the name of Neil Findlay, on a motion of no confidence. 15:32
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
As the Scottish Government’s mental health strategy states, mental illness is one of the greatest health challenges that we face. However, with appropriate a...
The Minister for Public Health (Michael Matheson) SNP
Some facts would be helpful for this debate. Upon his appointment as health secretary on 5 September 2012, Alex Neil examined a number of key areas in his p...
Neil Findlay Lab
Mr Matheson was the deputy when Ms Sturgeon made her decision, then the deputy when Mr Neil made his decision. What was his view on each of those occasions?
Michael Matheson SNP
If we deal with the facts Mr Findlay, we might make some progress on this matter—Interruption.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Order.
Michael Matheson SNP
—rather than just inventing things for the purpose of getting a few headlines. Those are the facts, and they are a matter of public record. The reality is...
Michael McMahon (Uddingston and Bellshill) (Lab) Lab
If the minister wants to move on to that issue, can he tell us on what basis, when Nicola Sturgeon signed off the option appraisal that showed option 1 as th...
Michael Matheson SNP
Michael McMahon might be interested to know the view of NHS Lanarkshire on the proposed option, which it stated would enable “the most contemporary provisio...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
Will the minister give way?
Michael Matheson SNP
I need to make progress. Members can disagree with what I have said and argue that they would have come to a different conclusion, and it is their right to ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Order.
Michael Matheson SNP
He did so without fear or favour. If Labour members wish to argue against that decision, that is their right, but that is not what they are doing. They are t...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Order. 15:50
John Lamont (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
A motion of no confidence is a very serious matter and not one that the Scottish Conservatives take lightly. After careful consideration, we will be supporti...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to a very short open debate. I call Bob Doris, to be followed by John Pentland. I can give both of you no more than four minutes. 15:54
Bob Doris (Glasgow) (SNP) SNP
Integrity applies to every member in this chamber, including our Opposition members. I feel that they have not passed that test this afternoon. We are being...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Order!
Bob Doris SNP
He is the man who has worked in partnership with the Parliament’s Health and Sport Committee to develop a vastly improved system of access to new medicines i...
Dr Simpson Lab
Will the member give way?
Bob Doris SNP
No, thanks. Let me tell the chamber something I know about health boards—Interruption.
The Presiding Officer NPA
The member is not taking the intervention. Order!
Bob Doris SNP
Just the other day, as deputy convener of the Health and Sport Committee, I took part in a robust evidence session with health boards about their budgets. He...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Order!
Bob Doris SNP
Someone must have held up a sign saying, “Clap!” there. Labour members were certainly not thinking for themselves. I expect a cabinet secretary for health t...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Will members please stop barracking the member and let us hear what he has to say?
Bob Doris SNP
As I said to Lewis Macdonald in a previous debate, the louder the Labour Party speaks, the more it realises that it is on shaky ground and that there is noth...
John Pentland (Motherwell and Wishaw) (Lab) Lab
Lanarkshire’s mental health plan was about far more than the two wards at Monklands, but they were Alex Neil’s main focus, even as cabinet secretary. The pla...
The First Minister (Alex Salmond) SNP
I want to take us into three areas of the debate. The first is the question of transparency, on which I will spend some time, because I want to be able to ...
Johann Lamont (Glasgow Pollok) (Lab) Lab
Will the First Minister take an intervention?