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Meeting of the Parliament 03 December 2014

03 Dec 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Private Sector Rent Reform
Mason, John SNP Glasgow Shettleston Watch on SPTV

The private rented sector is clearly changing and growing, so we need to keep legislation up to speed with those changes. My constituency of Glasgow Shettleston used to have a huge number of council and housing association houses, a fair number of owner occupiers and a traditional private rented sector. However, that has changed hugely, especially through the right to buy, and previous council or housing association properties as well as bought houses have moved into the private rented sector.

It seems to me that people use the private rented sector for a number of reasons. One is that some people, particularly younger people, just want a property for the very short term. I have been in that situation, as I am sure have other members. The second reason is that some people cannot get affordable housing, so they are forced unwillingly into the private rented sector. Part of the answer to that is ending the right to buy, which is absolutely the correct thing to do, and the other part is to build more affordable homes over time. The third reason is that some people cannot or do not want to buy, and private renting is their preferred route for the long term. That is much more common in other countries, but it seems to be becoming more common here, too.

Quite a number of the antisocial behaviour issues that are raised with me relate to private rented flats. There can be difficult residents anywhere, but the lack of stability for private tenancies makes things worse. If a tenancy is likely to be very short term, where is the incentive to build up relationships with neighbours and the wider community or to maintain, improve or invest in the property? If improving the property means that the rent goes up—as one of my colleagues told me that they had experienced—there is a positive disincentive to do that.

In Shelter Scotland’s make renting right campaign, I am very much attracted by the words “stability” and “security”. I was less comfortable with the phrase

“to stay as long as they want”

under the heading “Flexibility”. However, I was interested to see in the briefing that we received from Shelter that it is now talking about

“Flexibility for people to stay in their home as long as they need.”

I suspect that people will be more comfortable with that. Some of Alex Johnstone’s chums were perhaps a bit frightened off by the idea of people staying as long as they want.

There is a reasonable balance in the social rented sector. On the one hand, there is security and stability but, on the other hand, people can be evicted if the worst comes to the worst. I am encouraged by the positive relationship between police and housing associations, who work together so that the neighbour from hell can ultimately be evicted. We would certainly want a similar approach in the private rented sector.

As we are debating housing, the minister and members might not be surprised that I will mention the Bellgrove hotel in my constituency. It is privately owned and the residents are renting, although I accept that it might not be typical of the properties that Mary Fee talked about. One lesson from the Bellgrove hotel, which is in effect a hostel, is about the condition of private rented accommodation, which is another factor in the debate. If I took members to a range of tenement properties in Parkhead or Shettleston, they would know within seconds of entering them which are private lets and which are run by housing associations. I hasten to add that there are some very good private rented flats, but others are pretty grim, and that can be seen immediately.

A linked issue that has been raised is that of electrical safety. I hope that the Government will be open to input from the Electrical Safety First campaign.

Clearly, there is work to be done in what is a changing landscape, but we have to be positive about the achievements that have been made so far. Ending the right to buy has been a huge improvement and investing in new affordable housing whenever there is spare money has been great. Initial steps to register landlords and letting agents are moves in the right direction.

I see that I have run out of time, Presiding Officer.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-11763, in the name of Mary Fee, on private sector rent reform. 15:12
Mary Fee (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
In opening for Scottish Labour, I put on record our party’s support for Shelter Scotland’s make renting right campaign. As always, Shelter Scotland is at the...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
We have absolutely no spare time this afternoon. I call Margaret Burgess, who has up to seven minutes. 15:22
The Minister for Housing and Welfare (Margaret Burgess) SNP
I am glad to have the opportunity to debate the private rented sector. The sector’s growth might be news to some members, but the Scottish Government identif...
James Kelly (Rutherglen) (Lab) Lab
The minister tells the chamber that the Government has made good progress on issues in the private rented sector. Will she tell us why there was nothing in t...
Margaret Burgess SNP
I say to the member that, when the strategy group met and consulted together, what he raises was not recognised as an issue. It was not part of our Housing (...
James Kelly Lab
Will the minister take an intervention?
Margaret Burgess SNP
If it is brief.
James Kelly Lab
I think that the minister has been listening too much to the letting agents saying that rents have increased at below the rate of inflation. Does she think t...
Margaret Burgess SNP
I say to the member that we did not listen to letting agents to get that information. The information is based on Scottish Government research, which shows c...
Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I welcome Mary Fee’s motion because it gives us an opportunity to address an issue at the centre of the discussion on the private rented sector: the parties’...
James Kelly Lab
On the point about a realistic understanding of the housing situation, does the member recognise that one in four of those living in the private rented secto...
Alex Johnstone Con
We have to be careful of using inappropriate statistics. We have already heard one set of statistics balanced with the Government’s statistics in the two ope...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
We move to the open debate, with speeches of up to four minutes, please. 15:34
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
The private rented sector is clearly changing and growing, so we need to keep legislation up to speed with those changes. My constituency of Glasgow Shettles...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Your time is up, Mr Mason. I appreciate your brevity—thank you very much. 15:39
Ken Macintosh (Eastwood) (Lab) Lab
In our previous debate on housing, I described the difficult and anxious situation facing a resident in East Renfrewshire who came to see me for advice and a...
Clare Adamson (Central Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I want to start by picking up on some of the comments of my colleague John Mason about the quality of tenancies. I chair the cross-party group on accident ...
Mary Fee Lab
Clare Adamson says that the Government has acted responsibly. Would a responsible Government have a record on building housing that is the lowest since the s...
Clare Adamson SNP
I remind Mary Fee of the Labour and Liberal Democrat record on this area. “Housing Statistics for Scotland 2014: Key Trends”, published by the Government, sh...
Jim Hume (South Scotland) (LD) LD
Will the member give way?
Clare Adamson SNP
No, I only have four minutes. Sorry. We have taken action on tenancy deposit schemes and we have launched a consultation on tenancy, which will gather infor...
Siobhan McMahon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to be able to take part in this afternoon’s debate. I will highlight just one of the housing issues that my constituents face. I was contacted ...
George Adam (Paisley) (SNP) SNP
I welcome this debate because housing is an important and basic need and the Scottish Government takes it very seriously. As members have already said, it is...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will George Adam take an intervention?
George Adam SNP
Unfortunately, I have only a short time. That money will be invested to deliver a further 6,000 affordable homes, of which 4,000 will be in the social rent...
James Kelly Lab
Will Mr Adam take an intervention?
George Adam SNP
I am running out of time, and the more interventions I get, the more time I seem to lose.
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
George Adam SNP
If Labour Party members such as Mr Bibby believed in doing something for the constituents in my area, they would have had more than a short, last-minute deba...