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Meeting of the Parliament 18 November 2014

18 Nov 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Drink-drive Limit
Lyle, Richard SNP Central Scotland Watch on SPTV

As already stated, a drink-driving limit has been in place since 1965. Since then, social attitudes towards those who drink drive have changed; they have changed dramatically since the 1960s, with most people taking a hard-line stance on the issues surrounding drink driving. I would go as far as to say that the people of Scotland have developed a strong social conscience towards the issue of drink driving and are clear that drink driving can have devastating effects.

Despite that, I am disappointed to note that an estimated 20 lives each year continue to be lost on Scotland’s roads as a result of drink driving, not to mention the serious injuries that are sustained by members of the public. That is why I am pleased that the Scottish Government has decided to lower the drink-driving limit. I was also encouraged by the results of the Scottish Government consultation, which showed that the vast majority of people who responded would support a lower drink-driving limit in Scotland. In fact, just short of 75 per cent of respondents said that they would support a lower drink-driving limit. I believe that that reinforces the idea that our nation has a social conscience on the issue.

The new drink-driving limit that is in place from 5 December will make Scotland’s roads safer as it allows the police, prosecutors and our courts to take more drivers off the road who pose a risk to public safety. It will also act as a deterrent—it will encourage people not to drink and drive at all, particularly as the new limit is coming into force in the lead-up to the festive period, when many may have been tempted to have a drink and then drive after an office party or a family gathering.

When I first started driving, I—like anyone else—would have a couple of pints. Then I met someone who was stopped one night whose couple of pints had put him over the limit. Then, I went down to one pint and I said, “Why should I?” But then I thought, “I don’t want to be caught. I don’t want to drink and drive.” Therefore, now when I take friends out, I drink orange juice and I still enjoy my night.

With that in mind, the Scottish Government is doing all that it can to ensure that the public is properly informed about the change in the drink-driving limit. The campaign was launched on the 17th of this month and includes TV and radio adverts across Scotland as well as a robust social media campaign.

The new drink-driving limit brings Scotland into line with most other European countries. As has already been stated, the Republic of Ireland is an example of good practice and of the benefits of the lower limit. A review of its policy that was published in December 2012 found that the number of arrests for drink driving between October 2011 and October 2012 had fallen compared with the 2010 statistics, which was the last calendar year in which the higher limit was in force. Drivers in the Republic of Ireland have adjusted their behaviour to take into account the lower limit. That evidence is encouraging and I hope to see the same reduction in Scotland.

I encourage all members to support the lower drink-driving limit as it will make our roads safer and save lives. Even with the lower limit, someone is still three times—three times—more likely to die in a crash than if they had taken no alcohol. The best advice that we can give—I am sure that many members have already said this—is for people to have no alcohol if they plan on driving. As has also been stated already, people need to remember that what they drink the night before is still in their system the next morning.

16:30  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-11567, in the name of Kenny MacAskill, on lowering the drink-drive limit.
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Kenny MacAskill) SNP
Members will be aware that the Scottish Government has long argued that a lower drink-drive limit will save lives and help to make Scotland’s roads safer. So...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I say at outset that Scottish Labour supports the motion. I will speak to the amendment from Scottish Labour. We have no reservations in our support for the...
David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
Does the member share my view that we should introduce a graduated driving licence scheme for young drivers? The member will know that the proposal is that n...
Graeme Pearson Lab
The member makes an important point, and I would support that proposal. I was at Stranraer academy yesterday and that very issue was raised out of the blue. ...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
The Scottish Conservatives support initiatives to make Scotland’s roads safer. The pain, heartache and devastation that the victims—and their families—of dru...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Excuse me, Ms Mitchell. Sandra White has a point of order.
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. Could Margaret Mitchell please mention the motion and the amendment that she is speaking to? I have not heard anythin...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Thank you for that request for a point of order, but it is not a point of order. The words that Margaret Mitchell chooses to use are a matter for her.
Margaret Mitchell Con
I suggest that Sandra White should listen carefully—she has obviously lost the thread of the argument. Those reports highlight perceived pressures on police...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Margaret Mitchell Con
I will do in a minute, if Elaine Murray does not mind—I just want to complete this point. The SPA report identified evidence that “officers perceive a pres...
Elaine Murray Lab
Could Margaret Mitchell clarify the intention of her amendment? As I read it, the suggestion that the application of penalties for exceeding the drink-drivin...
Margaret Mitchell Con
I will come to that point specifically, if Elaine Murray will allow me to develop my argument. Furthermore, the cabinet secretary has emphasised—as does the...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
We move to the open debate. Speeches should be of four minutes, and there is time for interventions. 15:49
Dave Thompson (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) SNP
I am delighted to be taking part in the debate because, as the Cabinet Secretary for Justice said, I have been campaigning to have the drink-driving limit re...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate and voice my support for the lowering of the drink-driving limit. Sir Peter North’s report indicated that th...
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
The recalibration of the breathalyser happened last year. It is very important because the power is reserved, and I think that it would be a great improvemen...
Dr Simpson Lab
I am in favour of that area being devolved appropriately so that we can cover all aspects. We already cover some of them. Do our Scottish courts have the po...
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
I commend Dave Thompson for his tenacity and the work that he has carried out over the years to bring this change to fruition. I thank him very much for that...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
The current drink-drive limit was set in 1965. Since then, I am glad to say, perceptions have changed. Public and scientific understanding of the risks has i...
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Drink driving has been a scourge on Scotland’s roads for too long, leading to completely unnecessary injuries and deaths, and devastating families and commun...
David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
As a veteran road safety campaigner, I very much welcome the debate this afternoon and, of course, I will be supporting the Scottish Government’s motion. I ...
Dave Thompson SNP
Does David Stewart agree that, to deal with the full range of issues, we need all the powers relating to the matter to be devolved to the Parliament?
David Stewart Lab
I welcome the work that Dave Thompson has done on drink driving. As Dr Richard Simpson mentioned, there are strong arguments for devolving day-to-day adminis...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I will address both amendments. The first one—Graeme Pearson’s—is absolutely fine and dandy. In fact, a great deal of the committee conversation and interrog...
Christine Grahame SNP
No, I have only four minutes. I want to support Margaret Mitchell’s amendment but she will need to clarify what it means, for goodness’ sake. The committee ...
Hanzala Malik (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Reducing the drink-drive limit is important, and I fully agree with the motion and the Labour Party’s amendment. The UK currently has the highest drink-driv...
Richard Lyle (Central Scotland) (SNP) SNP
As already stated, a drink-driving limit has been in place since 1965. Since then, social attitudes towards those who drink drive have changed; they have cha...
Margaret McCulloch (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Reducing the drink-drive limit will make Scotland’s roads safer. We all know that alcohol affects a driver’s judgment and reaction times, and that the risk o...