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Meeting of the Parliament 05 November 2014

05 Nov 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Tackling Sectarianism

When, on 14 December 2011, the Scottish Government used its majority to railroad through the Parliament the controversial Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Bill, the Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs stated:

“Once the legislation is in place, we can get down to the difficult and long-term work of tackling sectarianism.”

She said that she wanted

“to begin the process of healing the divide and then celebrating this nation’s differences and diversity.”—[Official Report, 14 December 2011; c 4676.]

I am sure that we all agree that the work of the advisory group on tackling sectarianism in Scotland is an important contribution to that difficult and long-term work. The group, which is chaired by Dr Duncan Morrow, published its independent advice to the Scottish ministers and its report on activity in December last year. That was 70 pages detailing the history of sectarianism in Scotland; how it is manifested in today’s Scotland, including a working definition; and recommendations on how the attitudes and actions of a range of institutions could help to counter sectarianism. It is the most substantial piece of work that has been carried out on the issue.

The Scottish Government published its response to the independent advice in February, and a number of other agencies such as the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities have discussed their responses to the report. However, despite the Scottish Government’s professed concern about sectarianism in Scotland, it has not found time to present even a statement to the Parliament, still less a debate on the report or its response. I am aware that the minister has asked the advisory group to continue until March next year, but that is not a valid reason to postpone discussion of the independent advice by Parliament for more than 15 months. Moreover, that is when the funding of the 44 core projects is due to run out.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-11395, in the name of Elaine Murray, on tackling sectarianism. I will allow a few moments for members, pa...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
When, on 14 December 2011, the Scottish Government used its majority to railroad through the Parliament the controversial Offensive Behaviour at Football and...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
Does the member accept that—
The Presiding Officer NPA
Can we have Christine Grahame’s microphone on, please?
Christine Grahame SNP
My card is in, Presiding Officer.
The Presiding Officer NPA
It is working now.
Christine Grahame SNP
I know that I have a big voice, but I will obey the rules. Does the member accept that, on 4 March this year, the Justice Committee took substantial evidenc...
Elaine Murray Lab
Indeed, but I am talking about an in-depth investigation by committees and, in particular, discussion by the Parliament given its interest in the legislation...
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Elaine Murray Lab
Sorry, but I had better press on. The frustration of the anti-sectarianism campaigners Nil by Mouth has built up to such a stage that, before the October r...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
The Equal Opportunities Committee did look at the report and agreed that, because the advisory group was carrying on, it would look at it again in future—whi...
Elaine Murray Lab
I have seen the letter from the convener of the committee. As a member of the Justice Committee, which could also look at the report, I accept that parliamen...
Fiona McLeod (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Elaine Murray Lab
No. I am afraid that I must get on. I know that we will hear from the Government that it committed £9 million over three years to research, education and co...
The Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs (Roseanna Cunningham) SNP
I assure everyone in the chamber that this Government remains completely committed to tackling sectarianism. The level of that commitment can be seen in the ...
Elaine Murray Lab
How many of those 44 funded projects will continue after March next year? Has any evaluation of their success been undertaken?
Roseanna Cunningham SNP
Of course that is happening. No project has any right to assume that funding will continue without its outcomes being assessed, and that is one of the key jo...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I congratulate Labour on allocating its parliamentary time to a debate on this important issue. Expressions of religious hatred, regardless of how they are ...
John Mason SNP
Does the member think that legislation was or can be part of the answer or that it must be purely about education?
Margaret Mitchell Con
I will come to that precise point. In 2011, that act was railroaded through by the SNP majority Government in the face of opposition from Scottish Conservat...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We now move to the open debate. Speeches should be four minutes, please. Time is fairly tight. 15:03
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
We can all agree that we have a problem and that we need to talk about it. The key in this debate, inside or outside the chamber, is that sectarianism needs ...
Elaine Murray Lab
Can I just make a point of information about that?
Christian Allard SNP
First, let me read out to Elaine Murray a letter dated 1 April from our convener Margaret McCulloch, to Dr Morrow. The letter is important because it says wh...
Elaine Murray Lab
My motion does not comment on the failure of any committee; rather, it comments on the fact that Parliament has not discussed the report. That is the importa...
Christian Allard SNP
The motion refers to scrutiny by a committee. It may be that the motion is not drafted properly, so perhaps Elaine Murray will welcome the Scottish Governmen...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Have you finished your speech?
Christian Allard SNP
Did I have four minutes?
The Presiding Officer NPA
Yes. You have finished your speech. 15:07
John Pentland (Motherwell and Wishaw) (Lab) Lab
The forthcoming old firm match has attracted the media’s attention even though it is three months away. Although it has been nearly three years since they la...