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Meeting of the Parliament 02 April 2014

02 Apr 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Mental Health
Keir, Colin SNP Edinburgh Western Watch on SPTV

As my niece is a psychologist for NHS Borders, I know that mental health is a major issue, but I was not aware of the magnitude of the problem. As Neil Findlay pointed out, more than a third of Europeans will be affected by mental illness this year, and depression is the leading chronic condition in Europe. I was astounded when I found out that the World Health Organization predicts that depression will be the second-biggest health burden by 2030—second only to HIV/AIDS.

Depression is perhaps the problem that I have seen most closely in my family. My father suffered from a degenerative illness in later life and ended up with depression in a big way. That is one example of how people can move into being depressives, but there are many others. At the Health and Sport Committee last week, Lexi Parfitt of SAMH said:

“We know from decades of research about the complex interaction between poverty and mental health, and we know that poverty is both a cause and a symptom of poor mental health. ... If a person is mentally unwell, it can be quite difficult for them to deal with bills and so on, which makes them more vulnerable. For example, bipolar is characterised by extreme highs followed by extreme lows. When people are in their high period, it is not uncommon for them to give money away and spend money left, right and centre, which leaves them quite vulnerable.”—[Official Report, Health and Sport Committee, 25 March 2014; c 5117.]

Taken with all the experiences through life, that vulnerability can be overwhelming to someone who is suffering with mental health difficulties. If we add the difficulties of making claims in a complex welfare system, the sense of being overwhelmed can prevail.

It is perhaps only now that I really appreciate the “Mental Health Strategy for Scotland: 2012-2015”. It is essential that a system is in place for family and carer support, because without it the pressures of living and working with a sufferer can be extremely damaging. I am proud that Scotland is the only country to have introduced a waiting time target for access to psychological therapies. I understand that there are problems, however.

There is focus on increasing support for self management and self-help approaches, and there is work being done on the anti-stigma and anti-discrimination agendas, focusing on the rights of people with mental illnesses and developing the outcomes approach to include personal, social and clinical outcomes.

I was surprised that some issues to do with GPs’ surgeries were also raised last week, because I had not thought about them before. Many sufferers of mental health conditions find going to the doctor’s surgery difficult. As well as the problem of arranging the appointment with the receptionist, which can be overwhelming, people have to deal with doctors who do not know them, so they may feel that they are being passed around. All the pressures add up and can engulf people who suffer from mental health issues.

I am running out of time. I end by paying tribute to those who work within the see me campaign and SAMH’s campaigns. Each and every one of us should fight the stigma of mental health difficulties. I am sure that the £4.3 million that came from the Scottish Government and Comic Relief will be well used and appreciated, but we can all do more to bring the issue into the mainstream and to get people talking about it. We should not be scared to talk about it. People should hear the idea that they are not unusual if they are sufferers, and the more help that we can give people, the better.

16:28

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-09558, in the name of Jim Hume, on improving Scotland’s mental health. 15:50
Jim Hume (South Scotland) (LD) LD
A little over 15 months have passed since the Parliament last had the chance to thoroughly debate mental health issues. On that occasion, the Scottish Govern...
The Minister for Public Health (Michael Matheson) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to have this debate. Mental health issues have a high profile in Scotland. Indeed, this Parliament has regularly debated mental hea...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
Will the member give way?
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The member is in his last minute.
Michael Matheson SNP
It is important that we build on the good progress that we have made in recent years in order to reduce discrimination against and stigma towards mental ill ...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Mental illness is one of our time’s most prevalent conditions. Its economic, social and personal impacts can be, and often are, devastating. Across Europe, m...
Nanette Milne (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I welcome the Liberal Democrats’ decision to debate Scotland’s mental health, although it is perhaps a little premature, given that the 10 year follow-up to ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Many thanks. We move to open debate. 16:16
Aileen McLeod (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to speak in this afternoon's debate on what is a vital issue for tens of thousands of people across Scotland. In last year’s debate...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab) Lab
We should always begin health debates with positive stories, and it is very easy to find them because we have that wonderful organisation Patient Opinion her...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
You are in your final minute.
Malcolm Chisholm Lab
We should also remember that we need services that are available for all young people. In that regard, the Place2Be project is really good, because it is ava...
Colin Keir (Edinburgh Western) (SNP) SNP
As my niece is a psychologist for NHS Borders, I know that mental health is a major issue, but I was not aware of the magnitude of the problem. As Neil Findl...
Ken Macintosh (Eastwood) (Lab) Lab
I thank Jim Hume and his Liberal Democrat colleagues for bringing this debate to the chamber. Although there is some contention among the parties on what res...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
I am glad to have been given the opportunity to talk about mental health issues here today. A number of members have looked at some of the positives that hav...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
We move to the closing speeches. 16:37
Jackson Carlaw (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank Jim Hume for the way in which he opened this short debate, which turned out to be two debates for the price of one. I will concentrate on the motion ...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I draw members’ attention to my entry in the register of interests, as I am a fellow of the Royal College of Psychiatrists, honorary professor of psychology ...
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Much has been said today about psychological therapies. Does Dr Simpson share my concern that psychological therapies do not necessarily address the needs of...
Dr Simpson Lab
I will come on to that. Early identification of mental health problems is vital, so we really need to look at the tier 1 and 2 services, which are considerab...
Michael Matheson SNP
This has been a useful debate. I want to draw it together in a consensual fashion, because our mental health debates have largely had a consensus around them...
Neil Findlay Lab
Will the minister give way?
Michael Matheson SNP
Do I have time, Presiding Officer?
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Not much, but on you go.
Neil Findlay Lab
I support a great deal of what the minister said, but I say gently that, at some point, we have to have a serious discussion about the funding of local gover...
Michael Matheson SNP
The Labour Party is free to propose a debate on that issue if it wishes and we can respond to such points. However, there has been a significant improvement ...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I am delighted that we have had the debate and I am proud of the fact that Scottish Liberal Democrats have enabled it to happen. It has certainly been all to...