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Meeting of the Parliament 27 February 2014

27 Feb 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I thank the numerous witnesses who gave evidence and the Justice Committee clerks for their work in helping committee members to compile the stage 1 report on the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill. I also pay tribute to the convener of the committee and my fellow committee members for their efforts and for the spirit in which that powerful and compelling report was produced.

The bill will implement recommendations that were made in two separate expert reviews: those from Sheriff Principal Bowen, on sheriff and jury procedure, and those from Lord Carloway, on criminal law and practice. The Carloway review was set up in the wake of the Cadder case, which resulted in the provision that suspects have the right to legal representation when they are detained for questioning by the police.

Part 3 of the bill, on solemn procedure, was welcomed by the committee. It includes the proposal to introduce meetings between prosecutors and the defence and others to reduce unnecessary delays in criminal trials.

Part 1 contains provisions on arrest and custody. In attempting to simplify powers of arrest, there is a real danger that the proposed changes have instead done little more than confuse the situation. For example, at present the general public realise that, when a suspect has been detained for questioning, they have not been charged, and the presumption of innocence is still very much evident. I believe that, by changing the term to “arrest”, the public perception will be that the person is, to use the cabinet secretary’s phraseology, “officially accused”.

Indeed, the cabinet secretary’s response to the report and the introduction of terms such as “officially accused” and “not officially accused” do little to allay those fears. In giving evidence, the cabinet secretary also introduced the somewhat unhelpful term “de-arrest”, and said that he would bring forward a provision on that in an amendment at stage 2. I am glad that he has decided to drop that rather ridiculous wording.

The cabinet secretary’s deafness to the justified concerns about part 2 of the bill and the provision in section 57 to abolish the general requirement for corroboration has caused a storm of controversy. He has consistently attempted to misrepresent and polarise the debate, with victims on one side and the legal profession on the other. That is not only a complete distortion; it insults all those who oppose that move, including those who signed my amendment.

I do not doubt the cabinet secretary’s concern for victims; equally, I do not doubt the concern of leading judges, the Law Society of Scotland, the Faculty of Advocates, the Scottish Human Rights Commission and the cross-party group on adult survivors of childhood sexual abuse. All those organisations oppose section 57 not because they have an axe to grind but because they do not believe that it would be in the interests of the criminal justice system or victims of crime.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The first item of business this afternoon is a debate on motion S4M-09160, in the name of Kenny MacAskill, on the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill.
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Kenny MacAskill) SNP
I am delighted to open this stage 1 debate on the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill. The bill contains a significant package of wide-ranging reforms to our cr...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
What does the Government have to fear from including consideration of whether or not to abolish corroboration in the remit of the Lord Bonomy review?
Kenny MacAskill SNP
I say to Ms Mitchell that I am quite clear that, as I will go on to say, the case for abolition has been made. It has been made and supported by prosecutors ...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Kenny MacAskill SNP
Not at the moment.The work of the distinguished experts in the review will allow us to modernise our system and ensure that it is in balance. I have complete...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Kenny MacAskill SNP
Not at the moment.All of us here share the same goal: a balanced and effective criminal justice system, and one that is safe and secure. Lord Bonomy’s review...
Alison McInnes LD
The cabinet secretary, the Lord Advocate and, indeed, Scottish Women’s Aid have all openly admitted that the removal of corroboration will not in itself resu...
Kenny MacAskill SNP
One of our most distinguished judges said that we cannot have a whole category of victims who are routinely denied access to justice. We cannot have those wh...
Margaret Mitchell Con
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Kenny MacAskill SNP
Not at the moment.The voices of brave individuals have been echoed by those of the professionals who see the very personal and devastating impact that the co...
Patrick Harvie Green
Will the minister give way?
Kenny MacAskill SNP
Not at the moment.The difficulties posed by the corroboration rule to the pursuit of individual real cases could not be more apparent. We have heard from Pol...
Patrick Harvie Green
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Margaret Mitchell Con
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Kenny MacAskill SNP
After so much debate, we must now act. The bill sends a clear message that Parliament has listened and is acting to address that injustice. The corroboration...
Willie Rennie (Mid Scotland and Fife) (LD) LD
Will the minister give way?
Kenny MacAskill SNP
Not at the moment.
Willie Rennie LD
Outrageous!
The Presiding Officer NPA
Order, Mr Rennie.
Kenny MacAskill SNP
The extent of that injustice is clear. Research for the Carloway review identified that, in 2010, 268 serious cases were dropped after the initial court appe...
Willie Rennie LD
Will the minister give way?
Kenny MacAskill SNP
I now ask Parliament to listen to the voices of those representing some of the most vulnerable people in our society and to support the general principles of...
Willie Rennie LD
Will the minister give way now?
The Presiding Officer NPA
The minister is in his final minute.
Kenny MacAskill SNP
We need to set that important principle now and move discussion on to how to ensure a modern, efficient and fair justice system that is fit for 21st century ...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank the numerous witnesses who gave evidence and the Justice Committee clerks for their work in helping committee members to compile the stage 1 report o...
Kenny MacAskill SNP
Margaret Mitchell missed out the police and prosecutors. Do they not have a say?
Margaret Mitchell Con
I listed the people who have expressed their opposition. As the cabinet secretary knows, for one reason or another the police gave very confused views and ch...