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Meeting of the Parliament 13 November 2013

13 Nov 2013 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
National Parks
Many interesting and positive comments have been made about national parks in Scotland. I congratulate Claire Baker on bringing the issue to the attention of members today.

Much has been said in the debate about the successes of our two existing national parks, and I fully endorse those remarks. Scotland’s national parks are two of our greatest national assets and are very important for Scotland. I fully recognise their success—which was outlined by Claire Baker, Sarah Boyack, Claudia Beamish, Alex Fergusson and Christine Grahame—in protecting species and habitats, promoting tourism, and providing social and economic benefits to the communities that they serve and to the rest of the country.

Recently, I had the pleasure of chairing two meetings with the national parks and their partners to review progress with the latest five-year partnership plans. I was struck by the extent to which both national parks have a broad range of partners in the public, private and third sectors with which they are working to deliver both locally and on a national scale.

I met the Scottish Campaign for National Parks and the Association for the Protection of Rural Scotland at the beginning of September to discuss the “Unfinished Business” report. The meeting included Charles Strang of the APRS, who lives in Yetholm in the Scottish Borders and who is particularly passionate about the Cheviots as a candidate for a national park, and Mr Mayhew. We had a candid exchange of views on the report’s main recommendations. I welcome the opportunity provided by Claire Baker’s motion to share my views with members today.

First, there is the report’s proposition, which is repeated in the motion, that there should be a long-term national strategy for future national parks in Scotland. I fully understand where the SCNP and the APRS are coming from on that. Nearly half of the report sets out the trials and tribulations of the national park movement in Scotland over the past 65 years. As Alex Fergusson noted, the language used in the report—for example, “The Long Struggle” and “Unfinished Business”—says it all: the SCNP and the APRS think that there is a lot of catching up to do, which I acknowledge. That is why they are now calling for a long-term strategy in which at least seven areas of Scotland would be earmarked for future national park status.

There are two main reasons why I cannot agree to such a strategy at this time, the first of which is about resources in the current economic climate. It cannot have escaped the attention of the SCNP and the APRS that these are difficult times and that there are considerable pressures on public finances at present. We have suffered an 11 per cent drop in our resource budget and a 26 per cent cut in capital. As members have acknowledged, we simply do not have the resources at this time for new national park authorities, which would of course require set-up costs and a recurrent cost thereafter.

Secondly, I have said to the SCNP and the APRS that I appreciate that my decision will disappoint them, but I do not think that the suggestion of earmarking areas for possible future national park status is a good one at this time.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The final item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S4M-07932, in the name of Claire Baker, on national parks: unfinished business. The debate...
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
Establishing the national parks was one of the early achievements of the Scottish Parliament. The legislation was steered through by Sarah Boyack, who was th...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I congratulate Claire Baker on securing the debate. Although I supported her motion, she will be aware that I have lodged what I hope she sees as a friendly ...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I congratulate Claire Baker on securing the debate and welcome the publication by the SCNP and the APRS of their report, “Unfinished Business”.It is great to...
The Minister for Environment and Climate Change (Paul Wheelhouse) SNP
I thank Sarah Boyack for taking an intervention and assure that I will not take too much time over it. I simply wonder whether, having recognised the resourc...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I will give you that time back, Ms Boyack.
Sarah Boyack Lab
Thank you very much, Presiding Officer.That is exactly why we need a ministerial lead. Over the years, there have been many suggestions for different nationa...
Alex Fergusson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
As other members have done, I congratulate Claire Baker on securing the debate.As a member of the Rural Affairs Committee from 1999, I was involved in Parlia...
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am glad to be here to welcome the publication of the national parks strategy for Scotland. I thank my colleague Claire Baker for securing the debate, which...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I invite Paul Wheelhouse to respond to the debate. Minister, you have seven minutes.17:31
The Minister for Environment and Climate Change (Paul Wheelhouse) SNP
Many interesting and positive comments have been made about national parks in Scotland. I congratulate Claire Baker on bringing the issue to the attention of...
Claire Baker Lab
I, too, have had meetings with John Mayhew and others who are interested in the issue. My impression was more that they were keen for the debate to be on the...
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
Presiding Officer, I look to you for guidance on whether I will get that time back.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
You will.
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
I understand the member’s point, and I will come on to explain the wider strategy.The report states:“We consider that a pragmatic approach should be taken to...
Christine Grahame SNP
Will the minister take an intervention?
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
I am really short of time, so I will not, unless the Presiding Officer gives me some latitude.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I will allow you extra time if you wish to take the intervention, minister.
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer.
Christine Grahame SNP
Will the minister or his officials engage with the Pentland hills regional park consultative forum? He will be happy to hear that it is not looking for money...
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
As the member knows, I have written to her on the matter. The key issue is really the support of local authorities for the extension to the regional park bou...