Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 24 September 2013
24 Sep 2013 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
New Learning Disabilities Strategy
This Parliament and this country have a strong track record of promoting social inclusion, diversity and equality of opportunity. The European convention on human rights has been woven into the very fabric of devolution, having been given real legal force by the Scotland Act 1998 and the Human Rights Act 1998.
We all aspire to become a better and more inclusive nation. From education to employment and every other aspect of life, we want people with learning disabilities to be just as included as everyone else in society. Last week’s debate on disabled people in politics reminded us that we still have some way to go if we are to meet those aspirations—so, too, does the on-going debate about welfare reform—but we are making progress and attitudes are changing. As the minister says in his foreword to the new strategy, people with learning disabilities themselves believe that they are more accepted and valued in their communities.
With the strategy, we must build on the good work that has been done since devolution and bring the Parliament closer to meeting the aspirations that we share for people with learning disabilities.
The first years of this Parliament saw “The same as you?” published. It was the first major policy review looking at learning disabilities, and it was a comprehensive, well-received document. Crucially, it approached the issues faced by people with learning disabilities as rights-based issues. That is acknowledged in both the current document and in the Scottish Consortium for Learning Disability’s evaluation of the original strategy. Let me be clear: a rights-based approach was right then and it is right now, and a continuation of that approach is to be welcomed across the chamber.
The other instance of welcome continuity is in the scope of the strategy, which covers the whole lifespan of the individual. For the 16,000 school-age children and young people with learning disabilities, the 26,000 adults with learning disabilities and the adults who may no longer self-define as disabled, the strategy must be there from birth to old age. For people of all ages and from every generation, the ambitions and the policies that are set out in the document must reflect and speak to the needs, hopes and rights of that diverse group.
The fundamentals behind the strategy are sound. However, as Rachel Le Noan from Down’s Syndrome Scotland said in The Scotsman just the other week, the devil is in the detail. Specifically, it is in the implementation. How will the objectives that are set out in what is undoubtedly a substantive document be turned into a reality by the Scottish Government, public bodies, local authorities and the third sector?
I recognise that the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, the NHS, the third sector and others have been partners in the development of the strategy. Their on-going partnership is absolutely critical as we take this agenda forward. However, we cannot ignore the context in which the strategy has been developed and in which it must now be implemented. Every one of those partners faces huge pressures on their budgets.
There are wider changes, too, including the implementation of self-directed support, the integration of health and social care, and welfare reform. The background to the new strategy is therefore different from the background to the original one. Some of those changes will prove to be positive, while others—such as the welfare cuts—will not, but I hope that we all agree that, as we consider each of the 50-plus recommendations that have been made, we must be mindful of the pace of reform and ensure that we do not lose sight of the individual person or their rights.
My final point is about the strategy’s welcome focus on the health of people with learning disabilities. People with learning disabilities are more than 20 times more likely to suffer from epilepsy and are more likely to experience illnesses that may require hospitalisation, following which they may experience delayed discharge. People with Down’s syndrome are particularly susceptible to hypothyroidism as they get older. The needs of people with learning disabilities can be complex and diverse, and those who may not be able to articulate their health complaints face added challenges.
Therefore, I stress how important it is that the NHS understands learning disabilities. It is also important that independent advocacy is provided to help people with learning disabilities in their interaction with public services. Even in these tough times, we should aim to develop a more person-centred service for that section of the population through understanding and communication.
The needs of people with learning disabilities are multifaceted and the inequalities that they face are rarely one dimensional. The strategy sets out a number of ways in which we can address those needs, build on the rights-based approach that has informed so much of the work in this area since devolution, and improve the quality of life of tens of thousands of people with learning disabilities all across Scotland.
We all aspire to become a better and more inclusive nation. From education to employment and every other aspect of life, we want people with learning disabilities to be just as included as everyone else in society. Last week’s debate on disabled people in politics reminded us that we still have some way to go if we are to meet those aspirations—so, too, does the on-going debate about welfare reform—but we are making progress and attitudes are changing. As the minister says in his foreword to the new strategy, people with learning disabilities themselves believe that they are more accepted and valued in their communities.
With the strategy, we must build on the good work that has been done since devolution and bring the Parliament closer to meeting the aspirations that we share for people with learning disabilities.
The first years of this Parliament saw “The same as you?” published. It was the first major policy review looking at learning disabilities, and it was a comprehensive, well-received document. Crucially, it approached the issues faced by people with learning disabilities as rights-based issues. That is acknowledged in both the current document and in the Scottish Consortium for Learning Disability’s evaluation of the original strategy. Let me be clear: a rights-based approach was right then and it is right now, and a continuation of that approach is to be welcomed across the chamber.
The other instance of welcome continuity is in the scope of the strategy, which covers the whole lifespan of the individual. For the 16,000 school-age children and young people with learning disabilities, the 26,000 adults with learning disabilities and the adults who may no longer self-define as disabled, the strategy must be there from birth to old age. For people of all ages and from every generation, the ambitions and the policies that are set out in the document must reflect and speak to the needs, hopes and rights of that diverse group.
The fundamentals behind the strategy are sound. However, as Rachel Le Noan from Down’s Syndrome Scotland said in The Scotsman just the other week, the devil is in the detail. Specifically, it is in the implementation. How will the objectives that are set out in what is undoubtedly a substantive document be turned into a reality by the Scottish Government, public bodies, local authorities and the third sector?
I recognise that the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, the NHS, the third sector and others have been partners in the development of the strategy. Their on-going partnership is absolutely critical as we take this agenda forward. However, we cannot ignore the context in which the strategy has been developed and in which it must now be implemented. Every one of those partners faces huge pressures on their budgets.
There are wider changes, too, including the implementation of self-directed support, the integration of health and social care, and welfare reform. The background to the new strategy is therefore different from the background to the original one. Some of those changes will prove to be positive, while others—such as the welfare cuts—will not, but I hope that we all agree that, as we consider each of the 50-plus recommendations that have been made, we must be mindful of the pace of reform and ensure that we do not lose sight of the individual person or their rights.
My final point is about the strategy’s welcome focus on the health of people with learning disabilities. People with learning disabilities are more than 20 times more likely to suffer from epilepsy and are more likely to experience illnesses that may require hospitalisation, following which they may experience delayed discharge. People with Down’s syndrome are particularly susceptible to hypothyroidism as they get older. The needs of people with learning disabilities can be complex and diverse, and those who may not be able to articulate their health complaints face added challenges.
Therefore, I stress how important it is that the NHS understands learning disabilities. It is also important that independent advocacy is provided to help people with learning disabilities in their interaction with public services. Even in these tough times, we should aim to develop a more person-centred service for that section of the population through understanding and communication.
The needs of people with learning disabilities are multifaceted and the inequalities that they face are rarely one dimensional. The strategy sets out a number of ways in which we can address those needs, build on the rights-based approach that has informed so much of the work in this area since devolution, and improve the quality of life of tens of thousands of people with learning disabilities all across Scotland.
In the same item of business
The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick)
NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-07787, in the name of Michael Matheson, on the new learning disabilities strategy, “The keys to life”.I p...
The Minister for Public Health (Michael Matheson)
SNP
The new learning disabilities strategy, “The keys to life: Improving quality of life for people with learning disabilities”, was published in June of this ye...
Stewart Maxwell (West Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
The minister will be aware that the Education and Culture Committee has undertaken an inquiry into looked-after children and some of the outcomes that follow...
Michael Matheson
SNP
The member has raised a very important point. I am aware of those concerns.I was going to touch on the transition between services, particularly for those wh...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
Scottish Labour is committed to improving the quality of life for people with learning difficulties, and we welcome the debate and the opportunity to examine...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)
SNP
I am very much in tune with what the member says about the needs of people who have learning disabilities. Does he also agree that those who have learning di...
Neil Bibby
Lab
As I have been saying and will go on to say, people with learning disabilities should be involved and consulted on the services that they need. That is cruci...
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Con
We welcome the debate on the new learning disabilities strategy. We agree with and will be supporting the Government motion. I quote part of it:“Scotland can...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith)
Lab
We come to the open debate. We have a bit of time in hand, therefore I can give all members up to seven minutes. 15:01
Bob Doris (Glasgow) (SNP)
SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I welcome the publication of “The keys to life”, which is the second 10-year strategy for tackling learning disabilities and en...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
Although I can be generous with seven-minute speeches, if members go much over that, I am afraid that the time will have to drop back down later in the debat...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab)
Lab
In welcoming the comprehensive learning disabilities strategy, we should also remember, as Mary Scanlon did, that great policy document from the Parliament’s...
Bob Doris
SNP
I was going to intervene earlier, but I wanted to let Mr Chisholm finish telling his constituent’s story.I agree with Mr Chisholm about the co-production com...
Malcolm Chisholm
Lab
I do not want to get into that controversy; I was just giving the views of my constituent. I think that the general thrust of policy has been towards more in...
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I am delighted to speak in the debate. The subject of learning disability is of considerable personal interest to me because I have a younger sister with Dow...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab)
Lab
I very much welcome the transitions to employment project. There is no difference between us on that front. It will ensure that more people have positive out...
Joan McAlpine
SNP
Well, £250 million is a significant sum of money. It is important that the cabinet secretary has listened to what Enable Scotland and the Scottish Consortium...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
I am afraid that you have run out of time.
Joan McAlpine
SNP
I want to draw attention to the GP contract. Some people who have a learning disability have communication difficulties, so it is important that they get lon...
Stewart Maxwell (West Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I thank everyone who has been involved in developing the new learning disability strategy, “The keys to life”. In particular, I thank citizens of Scotland wh...
Margaret McCulloch (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
This Parliament and this country have a strong track record of promoting social inclusion, diversity and equality of opportunity. The European convention on ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
I call Dennis Robertson, to be followed by Jim Eadie.15:37
Dennis Robertson (Aberdeenshire West) (SNP)
SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. When you extended the time for speeches to seven minutes, I put my hand in my pocket and took out my throat lozenges. I certain...
Jim Eadie (Edinburgh Southern) (SNP)
SNP
I am grateful for the opportunity to take part in this debate and to follow a number of very impressive contributions on the quality of life of people with l...
Ken Macintosh (Eastwood) (Lab)
Lab
It does not quite seem that 13 years have passed since the last time we discussed a strategy to support people with learning disabilities. I admit that that ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott)
Con
The member should be closing now.
Ken Macintosh
Lab
I will follow the example of Jim Eadie and my colleague Malcolm Chisholm, and mention a forthcoming event. At lunch time on Wednesday 9 October I will host a...
George Adam (Paisley) (SNP)
SNP
I welcome the debate and the strategy, “The keys to life”, which builds on the strategy, “The same as you?”, which was published in 2000. I agree with Mary S...
Dennis Robertson
SNP
Mr Adam mentioned recommendation 3 and his support for it. We were talking about enabling, empowering and giving a voice to people with learning disabilities...
George Adam
SNP
I would not like to answer that myself, but that is what I was trying to say. We need to ensure that we speak in a language and package information in a way ...