Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 24 September 2013
24 Sep 2013 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
New Learning Disabilities Strategy
Well, £250 million is a significant sum of money. It is important that the cabinet secretary has listened to what Enable Scotland and the Scottish Consortium for Learning Disability are saying and has ensured that the quality of the courses that are provided is improved. Colleges have an obligation to deliver equality outcomes. If colleges are not doing so, the funding council should be alerted to that, because everyone is entitled to an education.
On the keys to life strategy, I want to address the very alarming statistic that people with learning disabilities live on average 20 years less than the general population. I particularly welcome recommendation 11, which instructs
“the Scottish Learning Disability Observatory ... to develop a better understanding of the causes of unnecessary deaths”.
Of course, the reasons for early death are complex. People with learning disabilities can have, for example, very serious congenital heart disease and thyroid problems. In addition to major health challenges, learning disabled people may not in the past have received the treatment that they needed to address relatively minor health problems, which can, as a result, become major health problems. That can be partly explained by the difficulty in getting them the specialised treatment that they need. For example, how do staff take blood from a person whom they suspect is anaemic or is suffering from some other condition if the person is petrified of needles and lacks the capacity to rationalise the need to give blood? What do they do if a person needs an operation to improve their quality of life but is phobic about hospitals? How do they reassure a person who has difficulty in communicating their fears or describing their symptoms?
I have experience of families who have suffered from such problems. Twenty years ago nothing was done and such families were isolated and marginalised. Now we have specialist community learning disability teams, who have made an enormous difference to the healthcare of that section of the population. That is a result of the previous strategy.
I have direct experience of the Inverclyde community learning disability team at the Elizabeth Martin clinic, in Larkfield, and I praise the team, which has made an enormous difference to the lives of the disabled people with whom it deals. Consultant psychiatrists, psychologists, community nurses, physiotherapists, occupational therapists, speech and language therapists, counsellors, multidisciplinary social workers, dieticians and chiropodists work together. It is important that people who have a learning disability have access to familiar professionals and continuity of care, in an holistic approach.
The delivery of medical care to some people who have a learning disability can be a slow process that requires an enormous amount of patience, understanding and flexibility on the part of health professionals. I know a learning disabled person who broke her foot and had to have it in plaster. The traditional way of removing a stookie—to use a good Glasgow word—is for the person to go to hospital and have it sawn off, but that would have been terrifying for the individual. However, the flexible support that the specialist nurse and physiotherapist could offer was such that the team was able to remove the plaster in the individual’s home. That is just one example of an advance that has been made.
I am running out of time.
On the keys to life strategy, I want to address the very alarming statistic that people with learning disabilities live on average 20 years less than the general population. I particularly welcome recommendation 11, which instructs
“the Scottish Learning Disability Observatory ... to develop a better understanding of the causes of unnecessary deaths”.
Of course, the reasons for early death are complex. People with learning disabilities can have, for example, very serious congenital heart disease and thyroid problems. In addition to major health challenges, learning disabled people may not in the past have received the treatment that they needed to address relatively minor health problems, which can, as a result, become major health problems. That can be partly explained by the difficulty in getting them the specialised treatment that they need. For example, how do staff take blood from a person whom they suspect is anaemic or is suffering from some other condition if the person is petrified of needles and lacks the capacity to rationalise the need to give blood? What do they do if a person needs an operation to improve their quality of life but is phobic about hospitals? How do they reassure a person who has difficulty in communicating their fears or describing their symptoms?
I have experience of families who have suffered from such problems. Twenty years ago nothing was done and such families were isolated and marginalised. Now we have specialist community learning disability teams, who have made an enormous difference to the healthcare of that section of the population. That is a result of the previous strategy.
I have direct experience of the Inverclyde community learning disability team at the Elizabeth Martin clinic, in Larkfield, and I praise the team, which has made an enormous difference to the lives of the disabled people with whom it deals. Consultant psychiatrists, psychologists, community nurses, physiotherapists, occupational therapists, speech and language therapists, counsellors, multidisciplinary social workers, dieticians and chiropodists work together. It is important that people who have a learning disability have access to familiar professionals and continuity of care, in an holistic approach.
The delivery of medical care to some people who have a learning disability can be a slow process that requires an enormous amount of patience, understanding and flexibility on the part of health professionals. I know a learning disabled person who broke her foot and had to have it in plaster. The traditional way of removing a stookie—to use a good Glasgow word—is for the person to go to hospital and have it sawn off, but that would have been terrifying for the individual. However, the flexible support that the specialist nurse and physiotherapist could offer was such that the team was able to remove the plaster in the individual’s home. That is just one example of an advance that has been made.
I am running out of time.
In the same item of business
The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick)
NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-07787, in the name of Michael Matheson, on the new learning disabilities strategy, “The keys to life”.I p...
The Minister for Public Health (Michael Matheson)
SNP
The new learning disabilities strategy, “The keys to life: Improving quality of life for people with learning disabilities”, was published in June of this ye...
Stewart Maxwell (West Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
The minister will be aware that the Education and Culture Committee has undertaken an inquiry into looked-after children and some of the outcomes that follow...
Michael Matheson
SNP
The member has raised a very important point. I am aware of those concerns.I was going to touch on the transition between services, particularly for those wh...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
Scottish Labour is committed to improving the quality of life for people with learning difficulties, and we welcome the debate and the opportunity to examine...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)
SNP
I am very much in tune with what the member says about the needs of people who have learning disabilities. Does he also agree that those who have learning di...
Neil Bibby
Lab
As I have been saying and will go on to say, people with learning disabilities should be involved and consulted on the services that they need. That is cruci...
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Con
We welcome the debate on the new learning disabilities strategy. We agree with and will be supporting the Government motion. I quote part of it:“Scotland can...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith)
Lab
We come to the open debate. We have a bit of time in hand, therefore I can give all members up to seven minutes. 15:01
Bob Doris (Glasgow) (SNP)
SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I welcome the publication of “The keys to life”, which is the second 10-year strategy for tackling learning disabilities and en...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
Although I can be generous with seven-minute speeches, if members go much over that, I am afraid that the time will have to drop back down later in the debat...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab)
Lab
In welcoming the comprehensive learning disabilities strategy, we should also remember, as Mary Scanlon did, that great policy document from the Parliament’s...
Bob Doris
SNP
I was going to intervene earlier, but I wanted to let Mr Chisholm finish telling his constituent’s story.I agree with Mr Chisholm about the co-production com...
Malcolm Chisholm
Lab
I do not want to get into that controversy; I was just giving the views of my constituent. I think that the general thrust of policy has been towards more in...
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I am delighted to speak in the debate. The subject of learning disability is of considerable personal interest to me because I have a younger sister with Dow...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab)
Lab
I very much welcome the transitions to employment project. There is no difference between us on that front. It will ensure that more people have positive out...
Joan McAlpine
SNP
Well, £250 million is a significant sum of money. It is important that the cabinet secretary has listened to what Enable Scotland and the Scottish Consortium...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
I am afraid that you have run out of time.
Joan McAlpine
SNP
I want to draw attention to the GP contract. Some people who have a learning disability have communication difficulties, so it is important that they get lon...
Stewart Maxwell (West Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I thank everyone who has been involved in developing the new learning disability strategy, “The keys to life”. In particular, I thank citizens of Scotland wh...
Margaret McCulloch (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
This Parliament and this country have a strong track record of promoting social inclusion, diversity and equality of opportunity. The European convention on ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
I call Dennis Robertson, to be followed by Jim Eadie.15:37
Dennis Robertson (Aberdeenshire West) (SNP)
SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. When you extended the time for speeches to seven minutes, I put my hand in my pocket and took out my throat lozenges. I certain...
Jim Eadie (Edinburgh Southern) (SNP)
SNP
I am grateful for the opportunity to take part in this debate and to follow a number of very impressive contributions on the quality of life of people with l...
Ken Macintosh (Eastwood) (Lab)
Lab
It does not quite seem that 13 years have passed since the last time we discussed a strategy to support people with learning disabilities. I admit that that ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott)
Con
The member should be closing now.
Ken Macintosh
Lab
I will follow the example of Jim Eadie and my colleague Malcolm Chisholm, and mention a forthcoming event. At lunch time on Wednesday 9 October I will host a...
George Adam (Paisley) (SNP)
SNP
I welcome the debate and the strategy, “The keys to life”, which builds on the strategy, “The same as you?”, which was published in 2000. I agree with Mary S...
Dennis Robertson
SNP
Mr Adam mentioned recommendation 3 and his support for it. We were talking about enabling, empowering and giving a voice to people with learning disabilities...
George Adam
SNP
I would not like to answer that myself, but that is what I was trying to say. We need to ensure that we speak in a language and package information in a way ...