Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 02 October 2013
02 Oct 2013 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Cost of Living
I genuinely do not have enough time.
What about food banks? The Trussell Trust reported in April this year that the number of people in Scotland using food banks has risen by 150 per cent to a staggering 14,318, of whom one third are children and one fifth are in full-time employment. The latest research from Debt Advisory Services (Scotland) shows that one in 10 Scots—500,000 Scots—borrowed money to pay for food in July. If members need any more evidence of a cost of living crisis, there it is.
We are all grateful for the work of the volunteers in communities across Scotland, but what a damning indictment it is of us all that food banks even exist. It appears from anecdotal evidence that some local authorities have sent people to food banks rather than provide a crisis grant. Crisis grants and community care grants are part of the Scottish welfare fund, which is hugely underspent. Only half of what could have been allocated has gone out the door at a time when the need is self-evident. It is astonishing that after a direct transfer of power to the SNP, which it wanted, it cannot even spend the money. That is another example of Scotland on pause when ministers are not interested in getting their day jobs right.
The pledge made by Labour and agreed by the Parliament was that we would abolish fuel poverty by 2016, yet when I ask ministers whether we are on track to do so I do not even get an answer. Let me try again: will the Scottish Government succeed in realising our collective ambition to end fuel poverty in three years’ time? The ministers’ heads are down and there is no response.
Using the Government’s own measures, Energy Action Scotland estimates that the number in fuel poverty stands at some 900,000 people. Over the past five years, energy costs have increased by 39 per cent and average household spend on fuel has reached a high of 14 per cent. If members need any further idea of the scale of the cost of living crisis they need look no further. What does the Government do? It has a £79 million budget and relies on £120 million coming from energy company obligations to make that up. That budget is underspent this year—yet another example of the SNP not getting the money out the door to the people who need it the most.
Last week, Ed Miliband proposed to tackle rising energy bills by pledging that the next Labour Government will freeze gas and electricity prices until the start of 2017. That will provide real relief for hard-pressed families and older people, and it is time that the Tories stopped laughing and took action to protect people. Does the SNP support that proposal? I listened to SNP MP Mike Weir a few nights ago when he said that it does not. Is the SNP really not prepared to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with families who are struggling? The SNP should not blame somebody else. Its own fuel poverty forum has told it that it needs to do more. That is another case of Scotland on pause while the SNP plays constitutional politics.
I can see that I am rapidly running out of time.
Members: Hear, hear.
What about food banks? The Trussell Trust reported in April this year that the number of people in Scotland using food banks has risen by 150 per cent to a staggering 14,318, of whom one third are children and one fifth are in full-time employment. The latest research from Debt Advisory Services (Scotland) shows that one in 10 Scots—500,000 Scots—borrowed money to pay for food in July. If members need any more evidence of a cost of living crisis, there it is.
We are all grateful for the work of the volunteers in communities across Scotland, but what a damning indictment it is of us all that food banks even exist. It appears from anecdotal evidence that some local authorities have sent people to food banks rather than provide a crisis grant. Crisis grants and community care grants are part of the Scottish welfare fund, which is hugely underspent. Only half of what could have been allocated has gone out the door at a time when the need is self-evident. It is astonishing that after a direct transfer of power to the SNP, which it wanted, it cannot even spend the money. That is another example of Scotland on pause when ministers are not interested in getting their day jobs right.
The pledge made by Labour and agreed by the Parliament was that we would abolish fuel poverty by 2016, yet when I ask ministers whether we are on track to do so I do not even get an answer. Let me try again: will the Scottish Government succeed in realising our collective ambition to end fuel poverty in three years’ time? The ministers’ heads are down and there is no response.
Using the Government’s own measures, Energy Action Scotland estimates that the number in fuel poverty stands at some 900,000 people. Over the past five years, energy costs have increased by 39 per cent and average household spend on fuel has reached a high of 14 per cent. If members need any further idea of the scale of the cost of living crisis they need look no further. What does the Government do? It has a £79 million budget and relies on £120 million coming from energy company obligations to make that up. That budget is underspent this year—yet another example of the SNP not getting the money out the door to the people who need it the most.
Last week, Ed Miliband proposed to tackle rising energy bills by pledging that the next Labour Government will freeze gas and electricity prices until the start of 2017. That will provide real relief for hard-pressed families and older people, and it is time that the Tories stopped laughing and took action to protect people. Does the SNP support that proposal? I listened to SNP MP Mike Weir a few nights ago when he said that it does not. Is the SNP really not prepared to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with families who are struggling? The SNP should not blame somebody else. Its own fuel poverty forum has told it that it needs to do more. That is another case of Scotland on pause while the SNP plays constitutional politics.
I can see that I am rapidly running out of time.
Members: Hear, hear.
In the same item of business
The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick)
NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-07872, in the name of Jackie Baillie, on the cost of living.14:55
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab)
Lab
There can be no doubt in anyone’s mind that times are tough, but times are much, much tougher for some people than they are for others. I am not often given ...
Gavin Brown (Lothian) (Con)
Con
Will the member give way?
Jackie Baillie
Lab
No. We have heard enough from you. Interruption.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith)
Lab
A simple “No, thank you” would suffice, Ms Baillie.
Jackie Baillie
Lab
Thank you, Presiding Officer.The last time I looked, it was millionaires and bankers who had the broadest shoulders, but members should not kid themselves th...
John Wilson (Central Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
Does Jackie Baillie agree that if the national minimum wage had been introduced at the rate of £5 per hour, which unions asked for at the time, we would not ...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
That was an interesting intervention from John Wilson. Aside from the fact that Labour ensured that the minimum wage was uprated adequately, I recall that th...
Mark McDonald (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
SNP
I appreciate what the member says and believe that she and I would be in agreement on a lot of things. However, how does she square that circle with her desi...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
That is just ridiculous. If we examine the SNP’s record, we can see that it is the SNP that is taking money away from low-income families by not targeting th...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green)
Green
Will the member give way?
Jackie Baillie
Lab
I have not got time.I campaigned for a Scottish Parliament because I realised the Parliament’s potential to help people at times such as this. Just as the la...
Gavin Brown
Con
Will the member give way?
Jackie Baillie
Lab
I genuinely do not have enough time.What about food banks? The Trussell Trust reported in April this year that the number of people in Scotland using food ba...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
Order.
Jackie Baillie
Lab
It is depressing the SNP chooses to play constitutional politics instead of thinking about the real issues affecting people in Scotland. I have already said ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
I am afraid that members will have to keep to their time limits, as the debate is oversubscribed.15:09
The Minister for Youth Employment (Angela Constance)
SNP
I very much welcome the debate, which gives the Parliament an important opportunity to continue to make its distinctive voice heard on such vital matters.I b...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab)
Lab
Will the minister take an intervention?
Angela Constance
SNP
In a minute.The bus pass for Scotland’s older citizens saves cardholders around £250 a year and the scrapping of bridge tolls saves a regular commuter £233 a...
Iain Gray (East Lothian) (Lab)
Lab
Will the minister give way?
Angela Constance
SNP
In a moment.Nursery care is being expanded, which will save families £707 per child per year.
Drew Smith
Lab
I am grateful to the minister for coming back to me.There is something that I would like the minister to help me with. I thought that the position of the Sco...
Angela Constance
SNP
Unlike David Cameron, I believe in a Scotland in which those with the broadest shoulders bear the biggest burden, but to allow that to happen we need to have...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
Will the minister give way?
Angela Constance
SNP
In a moment. As John Swinney has made clear, this Government will not walk by on the other side.I give way briefly to Jackie Baillie.
Jackie Baillie
Lab
I will indeed be brief. Does the minister support Ed Miliband’s energy price freeze?
Angela Constance
SNP
I think that Ed Miliband’s energy price freeze is very well intended. It is a scandal that in a resource-rich country such as Scotland we have fuel poverty. ...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
But does the minister support the principle?
Angela Constance
SNP
I want to see the details. However, I have to say that I would have had more confidence in Ed Miliband had I not looked at his record in government as energy...