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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 25 September 2013

25 Sep 2013 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
University of Edinburgh
I congratulate Jim Eadie on the motion and I declare an interest as I, too, am a graduate of the University of Edinburgh. To extend a metaphor that was used earlier, cabinet secretaries for education cannot be entirely monogamous in their affections for universities, but I have the strongest affection for the University of Edinburgh and its achievements, on which I congratulate it.

I entered freshers week at the university 43 years ago this week. Last night, when I was walking along Holyrood Road, I saw a number of freshers wandering around and I wondered what their experience of this great university is, particularly as it has grown and changed so much. I was struck by the point that was made about investment in the university, which has come from the university’s resources and from other assistance over a period.

Last night, I was in the remarkable Inspace building, which is used to encourage and develop new technologies. As various members have said, the university has a remarkable track record of taking ideas and ensuring that they work and that they work in the marketplace. That knowledge exchange work, which Kezia Dugdale mentioned, is important.

The Scottish Government made a commitment to ensure that a single knowledge exchange office is developed in Scotland and I will shortly say more about that, but we also want to protect the good work that is already done. We should not put in a single monolith, and Edinburgh is an exceptional university for knowledge exchange. Just two weeks ago, I met some of the people who are involved in that.

Before going into the substance of my speech, I will respond to a couple of points that have been made. I am happy to take Aileen McLeod’s point and to talk to David Willetts about the KIC project. I think that we have already been in touch about how to take that forward, and I always try to work with others to project the future and the work of Scottish universities on the international stage.

Kezia Dugdale made important points about how things should work in universities and about ranking systems. There is a range of ranking systems in the world. Next week, the Times Higher Education rankings will be announced. The QS rankings use a scoring system that allocates 40 per cent to academic reputation, 20 per cent to the faculty to student ratio, 20 per cent to citations per faculty, 10 per cent to employer reputation, 5 per cent to the international faculty ratio and 5 per cent to the international student ratio. There is a range of other systems, which weight other factors.

I am certainly intrigued by the good idea that widening access should count as an important feature of a university, as it relates to how a university develops and extends itself. Of course, Edinburgh has a good story to tell on that. This year, it has 50 more widening access places than it previously had, which it is filling. In 2012-13, it awarded 158 access bursaries to Scotland-domiciled new entrants. If widening access was a feature of rankings—it would be interesting to try to persuade a rankings system to take that on—Edinburgh would continue to compete.

We should look at the continuation of competition. The outcome agreement process that the Scottish Government has established with universities considers how each university should perform. The University of Edinburgh’s 2013-14 agreement says:

“Analysis of the rankings”—

that is, looking at the progress that the university has made—

“indicates that this level of investment”—

the global excellence investment, which is a new form of investment that is designed to encourage research and internationalisation—

“in addition to other strategies already in train, should move Edinburgh into the top 15 in the QS world rankings.”

Gavin Brown pointed out the progress that is being made. We should remain ambitious, to ensure that all our universities continue to progress in that way. All the world ranking systems are not the only judge of a university; there are other ways to judge them, such as on the quality that students find in a university and the contribution that it makes to the setting in which it lives—for Edinburgh, that is the city and the wider country.

The access issues are intriguing, but we must ensure that competition continues, because that draws students to us. The activity is international and global. It is also very valuable to Scotland as a country. Higher education is the third-largest sector in our economy, which is an extraordinary thought. I know that Gavin Brown always questions figures that are given in the chamber and particularly those from the Government front bench, but my source is a Universities Scotland report. Higher education is also an enormous exporting activity. Universities are estimated to leverage £1.3 billion into the Scottish economy from sources outside Scotland.

I congratulate Edinburgh on what it has done. It has a wonderful and rich history. As Jim Eadie pointed out, it is the place of Hutton. When we look up through the window that is to my left, we can see Hutton’s stone on Salisbury Crags. It is the foundation of world geology and the place that proved that two geological theories went together.

Of course, Edinburgh is the place where many other things have happened. Dolly the sheep and the Higgs boson have been mentioned. Nobody has mentioned that Edinburgh is the last university in these islands that had a student executed for heresy, but we should probably gloss over that.

In history, in English literature, as Malcolm Chisholm pointed out, in medicine, in veterinary medicine and in a variety of other fields, including in the area that I studied—Scottish studies, Scottish literature and Scottish history—Edinburgh has been groundbreaking and has had tremendous success in teaching and in research. Jim Eadie made that point forcibly and it should be made again: all our universities in Scotland are universities both for teaching and for research. Keeping those two things together, making sure that one feeds the other and, in particular, encouraging the growth of postgraduate research and teaching in our universities is the way forward.

This Government has increased investments for university research and knowledge exchange activities. This year we put in place the global excellence initiative with Edinburgh and—I say to Mr Malik—with Glasgow. Edinburgh and Glasgow are matching with their own fundraising in order to drive themselves forward in the international rankings. The University of Glasgow rose three places in the QS to 51, the University of St Andrews rose 10 places to 83 and the University of Aberdeen climbed 14 places to 148, so, including Edinburgh, those four universities are in the top 200 in the world. That is a unique achievement because Scotland has, per head of population, the largest number of universities in the top league in the world. That is remarkable for a nation of 5 million people.

Edinburgh has been called the capital of the mind and it is a place—and we have a country—that values learning. Learning, to some extent, is in our DNA. That is proved by the excellence of our universities. It is also proved by the way in which the universities are attracting investment from places outside Scotland. I opened the Fraunhofer centre for applied photonics at the University of Strathclyde—the first Fraunhofer centre in these islands. That is one example out of many of the type of investment that is taking place and will continue to take place in Scotland.

Universities are growing; universities are exporting; universities are increasingly attractive. The universities are driving our economy. Edinburgh is at the forefront of that. It is a wonderful university to attend, as so many young people—and older people—will discover this week as they enrol for the first time. We should, in the chamber, celebrate the success of Scottish institutions. They are founded upon the principle of education being based on the ability to learn, not on the ability to pay, and long may that flourish in our country.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The final item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S4M-07675, in the name of Jim Eadie, on the University of Edinburgh in the world’s top 20....
Jim Eadie (Edinburgh Southern) (SNP) SNP
I am delighted to have the opportunity to introduce the debate to Parliament this evening, and I am grateful to all those members who supported the motion in...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab) Lab
I congratulate Jim Eadie on lodging this important motion and, of course, the University of Edinburgh on achieving top 20 status in the world rankings. Mr Ea...
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Malcolm Chisholm Lab
I have a strict four minutes, so I cannot really take an intervention.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Go on—take an intervention.
Malcolm Chisholm Lab
Okay then.
Joan McAlpine SNP
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Malcolm Chisholm Lab
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Marco Biagi (Edinburgh Central) (SNP) SNP
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Gavin Brown (Lothian) (Con) Con
I congratulate Jim Eadie on securing the debate and giving a particularly interesting speech on the history of the University of Edinburgh. Marco Biagi talke...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Due to the number of members who still wish to speak in the debate, I am minded to accept a motion without notice under rule 8.14.3, to extend the debate by ...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I, too, congratulate Jim Eadie on bringing the debate to the chamber. I thank him for doing so because it gives us the chance to talk about the success that ...
David Torrance (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) SNP
I apologise to Jim Eadie and the other members in the chamber that I will not be able to stay for the remainder of the speeches due to another engagement.I, ...
Hanzala Malik (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I congratulate Jim Eadie on securing this debate on the University of Edinburgh’s great achievement, and I thank him for bringing it to Parliament.I am proud...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Lifelong Learning (Michael Russell) SNP
The interpretation of waiting lists is very important. If what Hanzala Malik says is the case, I am surprised that he has not been in touch with me directly ...
Hanzala Malik Lab
I did not want to go into great detail on that topic today, because I want to discuss the positive side of education. However, out of courtesy, I am happy to...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I would be grateful if, in the time that is remaining, you would confine your remarks to the University of Edinburgh.
Hanzala Malik Lab
Yes, of course, Presiding Officer. I did not really want to get drawn into that issue—that was a passing remark on something that affects higher education.On...
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green) Green
I thank Jim Eadie for bringing the debate to the chamber, and I thank and congratulate all those whose hard work is recognised in this ranking.I am very prou...
Aileen McLeod (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I, too, congratulate my colleague Jim Eadie on securing the debate and ensuring that the University of Edinburgh is in no doubt about our support and our gra...
Kezia Dugdale (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Like others, I congratulate Jim Eadie on hosting the debate and, given that we are still here at 10 minutes to 6, providing an opportunity for so many people...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Lifelong Learning (Michael Russell) SNP
I congratulate Jim Eadie on the motion and I declare an interest as I, too, am a graduate of the University of Edinburgh. To extend a metaphor that was used ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Many thanks. I declare my interest as a graduate of the University of Edinburgh. I, too, wish to add my congratulations to the University of Edinburgh and I ...