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Meeting of the Parliament 25 September 2013

25 Sep 2013 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Corroboration
I have been very generous with interventions. If the cabinet secretary does not mind, I will develop my argument.

The Parliament’s cross-party group on adult survivors of childhood sexual abuse has suggested improvements that might address some of the concerns expressed in the Labour amendment and by Kevin Stewart. They include the permitting of wider definitions of corroboration in cases of rape, sexual assault, child sexual abuse and domestic violence, a regular feature of which is the unlikelihood of there being a witness, while still maintaining fairness to the accused; further consideration of the introduction of more circumstantial evidence to help support corroboration in a chain of events; more systematic and constructive use of expert witnesses; and reviewing the application of the time period element of the Moorov doctrine—which has offered the opportunity for justice to victims of crimes of interpersonal violence—in cases where the modus operandi is similar, as it would lead to more flexible marking of cases by fiscals. The group made many more evidential suggestions that could and, I believe, would improve the application of corroboration.

Despite the fact that, under its terms of reference, it was competent for his review to do so, Lord Carloway failed to consider the option of retaining corroboration in the context of looking at the law of evidence to improve its application. That failure renders his review fundamentally flawed with regard to corroboration, and the motion seeks to ensure that the option, together with the options to either abolish or retain corroboration, are properly discussed openly and transparently by being subject to the widest independent review.

A wider review of the law of evidence should be carried out, including of the interaction between corroboration and other laws of evidence, either by referral to the Scottish Law Commission or a public inquiry. It is important to note that the term “public inquiry” has a very broad meaning and that a number of forms of inquiry are available. The type of public inquiry suggested would be similar to that under the commission that was established under Lord Thomson in 1970, which carried out a wide-ranging examination of Scottish criminal procedure and produced three reports, which are referred to in the 2012 paper by Professor Chalmers and Dr Leverick. The authors warned in that paper that never before have sweeping changes to the Scottish criminal system been as a result of a single individual and that the Carloway review was

“a model for criminal law reform without recent precedent.”

In conclusion, it is totally unacceptable that a decision of such a magnitude is crammed in with the Justice Committee’s scrutiny of the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill with its miscellaneous provisions.

I move,

That the Parliament notes the substantial proposal to abolish the centuries old requirement for corroboration in Scottish criminal cases contained in the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill; notes the overwhelming opposition to this proposal from all parts of the legal profession, including the Senators of the College of Justice, the Law Society of Scotland and the Faculty of Advocates, as well as the Scottish Police Federation, the Scottish Human Rights Commission, the Cross-Party Group on Adult Survivors of Childhood Sexual Abuse and many legal academics; believes that the proposal to abolish corroboration cannot be looked at in isolation and that the Scottish Government’s Reforming Scots Criminal Law and Practice: Additional Safeguards Following the Removal of the Requirement for Corroboration consultation was inadequate to support a proposed change of this magnitude; notes with concern the implications of the abolition of corroboration, which would undermine confidence in the criminal justice system, and calls on the Scottish Government to remove the proposal to abolish corroboration from the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill and, instead, to seek to improve the application of corroboration by carrying out a wider review of the law of evidence in Scotland, including the interaction between corroboration and other rules of evidence, by either a referral to the Scottish Law Commission or a public inquiry.

14:50

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
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Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
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The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Kenny MacAskill) SNP
The member will be aware that Lord Carloway said that, in his extensive research, he could find no other jurisdiction in western Europe or indeed the Commonw...
Margaret Mitchell Con
The fact that no other jurisdiction has corroboration is not sufficient reason to abolish it here. I find that a bizarre argument. The use of the word archai...
Margo MacDonald (Lothian) (Ind) Ind
Would it be possible to find out whether everyone who speaks agrees with going to a new set of verdicts—proven and not proven?
Margaret Mitchell Con
No doubt they will make their position clear. My view is that, if corroboration was abolished, it would strengthen the argument for keeping a not proven verd...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
One of the things that concerns me about all of this is that, in considering 141 sexual offence cases that were dropped between July and December 2010, the C...
Margaret Mitchell Con
I understand and sympathise with the member’s view. Perhaps I will be able to offer some comfort as I develop my argument.The comments that I have highlighte...
Kenny MacAskill SNP
Will the member give way?
Margaret Mitchell Con
I have been very generous with interventions. If the cabinet secretary does not mind, I will develop my argument.The Parliament’s cross-party group on adult ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Kenny MacAskill) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to respond to the motion on the proposal to abolish the general requirement for corroboration in criminal cases. That proposal is a...
Margaret Mitchell Con
Will the cabinet secretary confirm that the Scottish Human Rights Commission is against abolition? Does he have any concern that the testimony of one witness...
Kenny MacAskill SNP
Yes, I would have concerns if it was simply the testimony of one witness, but the Lord Advocate has given clear guidance that that will not be the test. That...
Margo MacDonald Ind
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Kenny MacAskill SNP
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Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary acknowledge that the views and recommendations of the senators of the College of Justice are somewhat different and that to accept...
Kenny MacAskill SNP
We are not simply accepting the views solely of Lord Carloway. Views have been contributed by Police Scotland, the Crown, Victim Support Scotland, Scottish W...
Margo MacDonald Ind
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Kenny MacAskill SNP
Not at the moment.The law on corroboration has been debated for the past three years, and at no point has anyone identified another system operating a genera...
Margo MacDonald Ind
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Kenny MacAskill SNP
Sorry, but I am running short of time.At the very least, the abolition of the requirement for corroboration will allow crimes committed in private, where the...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
One of the most important functions of the committees of this Parliament is to scrutinise legislation that is proposed by the Scottish Government; it is a ro...
Margaret Mitchell Con
Is that not an argument for taking the issue of corroboration out of the committee process and having a wide and independent debate on it now?
Elaine Murray Lab
No, I do not think that it is. There have been many controversial provisions in Government bills over the years, but they have gone through the committee pro...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Elaine Murray Lab
I am sorry; I only have five minutes.Removal of the requirement for corroboration would theoretically permit cases to go to court on the evidence of one witn...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will the member give way?
Elaine Murray Lab
No. I am sorry, but I only have five minutes and I am halfway through.Supporters of abolition argue that the proving of guilt would be dependent on the quali...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
We move to the open debate. We are extraordinarily tight for time. Members have up to four minutes.15:03
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
I will try to be as quick as possible, Presiding Officer. Margaret Mitchell said that we should not be looking at corroboration within the Criminal Justice (...