Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 11 September 2013
11 Sep 2013 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Enterprise Networks
It was in 2007 that I previously held the economy and enterprise brief for my party, but it is almost as if nothing has changed in the interim. Here we are, back debating Scottish Enterprise again. I well remember all the debates that took place years ago in which Scottish Enterprise was regularly a kicking boy. I confess that I did my fair share of kicking in those days, and I was not alone in that. Front-bench spokesmen from the minister’s party, which was then in opposition, were more than happy to put the boot in regularly.
However, times have changed and the enterprise networks have changed with them. We now see much slimmed-down organisations that have smaller budgets, fewer responsibilities and a much more focused approach.
The debate is held in the week when a new study has come out about Scottish Enterprise’s account-management approach. The study is largely positive, although it highlighted concerns about the low level of churn in the account-management portfolio, a slow transition from the business gateway growth pipeline to account management and shortages of management and performance data for account-managed companies.
At this morning’s Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee meeting, we heard evidence from WeDO Scotland that there is a lack of information about who can apply to be part of Scottish Enterprise’s high-growth programme and that account managers with relevant experience and expertise need to be aligned with the high-growth companies that are accepted on to the programme. Companies to which account managers from relevant backgrounds are assigned have had positive experiences, but that has not always been the case. We also heard evidence about the disconnect between business gateway and the transition to account-managed programmes, which Jenny Marra picked up on, and about a general lack of knowledge of the help that is available to small and medium-sized enterprises.
There are improvements to make, but they should not detract from what is a positive story overall. There remains a deeper philosophical issue about picking winners, which I debated with the minister a few moments ago. I am sure that that debate will continue.
In her amendment, Jenny Marra makes the case for a full review of the enterprise agencies’ work. I listened with great interest to the case that she made, but I am not convinced at this stage that a review is the right thing to do. We had a major restructuring and upheaval in the enterprise networks not long ago. That has had time to bed down and, overall, the change has been positive. We should keep a close watching brief on that, but I am not sure whether a full review to dig that up and examine the roots is the right way to go at this stage.
My amendment raises a specific issue in connection with Scottish Enterprise—that of the intermediary technology institutes. Members with long memories will recall that, in 2002, the then Scottish Enterprise chief executive, Robert Crawford, set up the ITIs with the laudable aim of helping to commercialise research from Scottish universities. Three ITIs were established—in life sciences, energy and digital media—with offices in Dundee, Aberdeen and Glasgow respectively.
The then First Minister, Jack McConnell, was fulsome in his support of the new initiative. He said:
“Scotland’s Technology Institutes will have a crucial role in making the giant leap to more world-beating companies and high-quality jobs.”
It was not just members of the then Scottish Executive who were supportive. Alex Neil, the then convener of the Enterprise and Lifelong Learning Committee, said:
“they play a vital role in creating the industries of tomorrow”.
Sadly, the ITIs had a chequered history. In the first two years, there was a high level of turnover of senior managers, amid complaints that Scottish Enterprise was cutting back on its initial funding promises. There was a major restructuring in 2007, and in 2009 the operation of the ITIs was brought back in-house. In 2010, Scottish Enterprise took the decision to stop investing in new projects altogether. The total spend over that period was some £231 million. The value of the intellectual property that has been generated to date is assessed to be a mere £600,000. On any measure, that represents a spectacular failure.
This week, I asked the Auditor General, Caroline Gardner, to carry out an audit of the performance of the ITIs. When such large sums of public money are involved, it is important that we understand exactly what went wrong, not least so that we can learn lessons for the future.
However, times have changed and the enterprise networks have changed with them. We now see much slimmed-down organisations that have smaller budgets, fewer responsibilities and a much more focused approach.
The debate is held in the week when a new study has come out about Scottish Enterprise’s account-management approach. The study is largely positive, although it highlighted concerns about the low level of churn in the account-management portfolio, a slow transition from the business gateway growth pipeline to account management and shortages of management and performance data for account-managed companies.
At this morning’s Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee meeting, we heard evidence from WeDO Scotland that there is a lack of information about who can apply to be part of Scottish Enterprise’s high-growth programme and that account managers with relevant experience and expertise need to be aligned with the high-growth companies that are accepted on to the programme. Companies to which account managers from relevant backgrounds are assigned have had positive experiences, but that has not always been the case. We also heard evidence about the disconnect between business gateway and the transition to account-managed programmes, which Jenny Marra picked up on, and about a general lack of knowledge of the help that is available to small and medium-sized enterprises.
There are improvements to make, but they should not detract from what is a positive story overall. There remains a deeper philosophical issue about picking winners, which I debated with the minister a few moments ago. I am sure that that debate will continue.
In her amendment, Jenny Marra makes the case for a full review of the enterprise agencies’ work. I listened with great interest to the case that she made, but I am not convinced at this stage that a review is the right thing to do. We had a major restructuring and upheaval in the enterprise networks not long ago. That has had time to bed down and, overall, the change has been positive. We should keep a close watching brief on that, but I am not sure whether a full review to dig that up and examine the roots is the right way to go at this stage.
My amendment raises a specific issue in connection with Scottish Enterprise—that of the intermediary technology institutes. Members with long memories will recall that, in 2002, the then Scottish Enterprise chief executive, Robert Crawford, set up the ITIs with the laudable aim of helping to commercialise research from Scottish universities. Three ITIs were established—in life sciences, energy and digital media—with offices in Dundee, Aberdeen and Glasgow respectively.
The then First Minister, Jack McConnell, was fulsome in his support of the new initiative. He said:
“Scotland’s Technology Institutes will have a crucial role in making the giant leap to more world-beating companies and high-quality jobs.”
It was not just members of the then Scottish Executive who were supportive. Alex Neil, the then convener of the Enterprise and Lifelong Learning Committee, said:
“they play a vital role in creating the industries of tomorrow”.
Sadly, the ITIs had a chequered history. In the first two years, there was a high level of turnover of senior managers, amid complaints that Scottish Enterprise was cutting back on its initial funding promises. There was a major restructuring in 2007, and in 2009 the operation of the ITIs was brought back in-house. In 2010, Scottish Enterprise took the decision to stop investing in new projects altogether. The total spend over that period was some £231 million. The value of the intellectual property that has been generated to date is assessed to be a mere £600,000. On any measure, that represents a spectacular failure.
This week, I asked the Auditor General, Caroline Gardner, to carry out an audit of the performance of the ITIs. When such large sums of public money are involved, it is important that we understand exactly what went wrong, not least so that we can learn lessons for the future.
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The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick)
NPA
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Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD)
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Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Con
I am grateful to the minister for giving way. We heard some interesting evidence this morning at the Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee—I am referring not...
Fergus Ewing
SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith)
Lab
Minister, you are approaching your last minute.
Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
Will the minister take an intervention?
Fergus Ewing
SNP
Sorry, I have oodles—to use a non-ministerial technical expression—of my speech left.
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
I am afraid that we are rather tight for time. You are now in your last minute.
Fergus Ewing
SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
I call Jenny Marra to speak to and move amendment S4M-07643.1. Ms Marra, you have a maximum of nine minutes.15:52
Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
Like the minister, I put on record the Labour Party’s support for the work of Scottish Enterprise and all our enterprise networks in developing Scotland’s bu...
Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP)
SNP
What the member has just suggested was very much a feature under the Labour/Liberal Scottish Executive, when Scottish Enterprise had no clear direction. Sinc...
Jenny Marra
Lab
I had hoped to strike a conciliatory note—
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
Order, please. We cannot hear the member.
Jenny Marra
Lab
I was about to go on to propose a review of the agencies. Since 1999, Scottish Enterprise has operated effectively, but it has perhaps not always been as eff...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
Excuse me, Ms Marra, but the conversations that are taking place in the chamber, particularly those behind you, must cease.
Jenny Marra
Lab
We need to examine the impact that the reforms have had on workers and business and we believe that now is the right time for a pulse-check.As well as noting...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
You have nine minutes, but I can give you a few more seconds for the interruption.
Jenny Marra
Lab
Thank you.The Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee report examined our enterprise networks as a whole, the gaps in partnership working and the proactive ste...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Con
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Fergus Ewing
SNP
I have been aware of Mr Fraser’s concerns about the matter since yesterday, when his amendment was lodged. I would be more than happy to facilitate a meeting...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
You are now in your final 30 seconds.
Murdo Fraser
Con
I am grateful to the minister for that helpful offer, and I look forward to engaging directly with Scottish Enterprise.I raised the issue directly with Lena ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
We come to the open debate. Speeches should be of a maximum of six minutes, because we are very tight for time.16:07
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SNP
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Murdo Fraser
Con
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I understood that the topic for debate was Scotland’s enterprise networks, on which we have a motion and amendments b...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
Members should try to stick to the terms of the debate. If any member wishes to intervene on another member, they can ask to do so. Mr MacKenzie, please cont...
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