Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 18 June 2013
18 Jun 2013 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Hydro Power
This is a timely debate that examines the past, present and future of one of Scotland’s most valuable assets—a source of renewable energy that can help to combat the current problems of high fuel bills and fuel poverty in many of our communities.
Hydro power is the oldest form of renewable energy in Scotland and has a proud history. It contributes about 12 per cent of our electricity needs, as we have heard. In 1930, Scotland had a mere 45MW of large-scale hydro, and the rest of the UK also had 45MW. In 2012, Scotland had 1,339MW of large-scale hydro, while the rest of the UK had 132MW. We currently have enough hydro power to provide almost 1 million homes with their electricity every year. Hydro has been a reliable source of energy for decades; today we celebrate 70 years since the passing of the 1943 act.
In the race for cheaper, cleaner and renewable energy sources, it is too easy to forget the role of hydro power—not only in the past, but when we look to the future. There is potential for more than 1.2GW of smaller-scale hydro to be developed in Scotland, but some issues need to be resolved for that to happen. They include feed-in tariffs, which my colleague Rob Gibson touched on. Feed-in tariffs have been cut by a set amount every year, depending on the level of deployed capacity. Other issues include electricity market reform and delays in connecting new projects to the national grid.
Many, if not all, of those delays are due to the slow pace of the Westminster Government. With independence, a Scottish Government of whatever hue could provide stronger support to that key industry, which could certainly provide renewable energy to tackle the scourge of fuel poverty. The report on the achievability of the Scottish Government’s renewable energy targets by the Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee, which I was a member of until the report was drafted, highlighted that
“the support the Scottish Government can provide to the development of the renewables sector is limited by the current constitutional arrangements.”
It was also interesting to note that
“The Committee does not believe that there is significant evidence that the current constitutional debate is undermining investment decisions regarding renewable energy.”
That report also highlighted a number of issues that need to be addressed, including the transmission system and the charging regime. There is widespread concern that Scotland’s generators are being penalised for providing power while those in other parts of the UK receive generous subsidy.
Although the committee report welcomed the recent decisions that have been taken to level the playing field for mainland generators in Scotland compared to the rest of the UK, there is still concern that the improved incremental cost-related pricing that has been proposed by the Office of Gas and Electricity Markets does not go far enough, and that island generators remain at a distinct disadvantage compared with those on the mainland. I have touched on that point in previous debates. The situation will render many projects uneconomic—I expect that Liam McArthur will touch on that in his speech, as he is an Orkney MSP. Given the significant renewables resources that are located on and around Scotland’s islands, a fairer system must be found.
The committee’s report also mentioned the empowering of communities either to generate their own energy or to gain the maximum benefit from developments in their area. Microgeneration provides the opportunity for householders, businesses and communities to participate in the low-carbon economy. The importance of community and locally owned renewable energy is also recognised by the target of achieving 500MW of community and locally owned renewable energy by 2020.
I am aware of moves in West Scotland to create a community-led micro-hydro generation company. That would, I hope, provide hydro power to the grid and provide community benefits, much as similar community-led projects have worked with onshore wind farms. I genuinely believe that that is an exciting prospect for areas in West Scotland. The one that I know of is in Inverclyde, which as members will know has no lack of rainfall to provide the raw resource that is necessary to drive hydro power projects. A number of sites across Inverclyde are being looked at as potential locations for micro-hydro generation. It is hoped that they can be developed either in partnership with Scottish Water or as stand-alone community-interest companies.
By following a community-led approach, such as has been used by the Neilston community wind farm, we could empower community groups to generate additional funding for their areas while they generate electricity for the grid. Such funding could be used to help to combat fuel poverty and to improve energy efficiency in homes, or it could be used for a range of developments that are aimed at improving communities. Inverclyde Council has been investigating the possibility of hydro power schemes being in council ownership or control, as part of its approach to renewable energy generation.
It will certainly be interesting to see how those schemes develop and, I hope, combine to support communities in Inverclyde. It is of great interest to me that, in the past, much of the heavy industry in Inverclyde was powered by hydro power and that much of that infrastructure still exists. With a bit more investment, who knows what could happen?
Another positive side to community hydro schemes is that they can help to address flooding, which would be greatly advantageous in Inverclyde.
We need to make it easier for communities to come together with councils and businesses to form community interest groups to ensure that at least some of the profits of hydro power go back into those communities. For that reason, the Scottish Government’s decision to retain the level of support for the sector is significant. That will certainly be a boost to the smaller developments that are being looked at across the country. Such developments face more challenging conditions and higher risks, so maintaining of support—unlike what appears to be happening in the rest of the UK—is significant and will provide some stability for investment. Further support through streamlining planning consents will also encourage the future development of smaller facilities.
In conclusion, hydro power has a long and successful history in Scotland. It provides a significant amount of clean renewable electricity. With the continuing support of the Scottish Government, there are good prospects for the future development of hydro power in Scotland—potentially on a smaller, community-led, basis.
15:26
Hydro power is the oldest form of renewable energy in Scotland and has a proud history. It contributes about 12 per cent of our electricity needs, as we have heard. In 1930, Scotland had a mere 45MW of large-scale hydro, and the rest of the UK also had 45MW. In 2012, Scotland had 1,339MW of large-scale hydro, while the rest of the UK had 132MW. We currently have enough hydro power to provide almost 1 million homes with their electricity every year. Hydro has been a reliable source of energy for decades; today we celebrate 70 years since the passing of the 1943 act.
In the race for cheaper, cleaner and renewable energy sources, it is too easy to forget the role of hydro power—not only in the past, but when we look to the future. There is potential for more than 1.2GW of smaller-scale hydro to be developed in Scotland, but some issues need to be resolved for that to happen. They include feed-in tariffs, which my colleague Rob Gibson touched on. Feed-in tariffs have been cut by a set amount every year, depending on the level of deployed capacity. Other issues include electricity market reform and delays in connecting new projects to the national grid.
Many, if not all, of those delays are due to the slow pace of the Westminster Government. With independence, a Scottish Government of whatever hue could provide stronger support to that key industry, which could certainly provide renewable energy to tackle the scourge of fuel poverty. The report on the achievability of the Scottish Government’s renewable energy targets by the Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee, which I was a member of until the report was drafted, highlighted that
“the support the Scottish Government can provide to the development of the renewables sector is limited by the current constitutional arrangements.”
It was also interesting to note that
“The Committee does not believe that there is significant evidence that the current constitutional debate is undermining investment decisions regarding renewable energy.”
That report also highlighted a number of issues that need to be addressed, including the transmission system and the charging regime. There is widespread concern that Scotland’s generators are being penalised for providing power while those in other parts of the UK receive generous subsidy.
Although the committee report welcomed the recent decisions that have been taken to level the playing field for mainland generators in Scotland compared to the rest of the UK, there is still concern that the improved incremental cost-related pricing that has been proposed by the Office of Gas and Electricity Markets does not go far enough, and that island generators remain at a distinct disadvantage compared with those on the mainland. I have touched on that point in previous debates. The situation will render many projects uneconomic—I expect that Liam McArthur will touch on that in his speech, as he is an Orkney MSP. Given the significant renewables resources that are located on and around Scotland’s islands, a fairer system must be found.
The committee’s report also mentioned the empowering of communities either to generate their own energy or to gain the maximum benefit from developments in their area. Microgeneration provides the opportunity for householders, businesses and communities to participate in the low-carbon economy. The importance of community and locally owned renewable energy is also recognised by the target of achieving 500MW of community and locally owned renewable energy by 2020.
I am aware of moves in West Scotland to create a community-led micro-hydro generation company. That would, I hope, provide hydro power to the grid and provide community benefits, much as similar community-led projects have worked with onshore wind farms. I genuinely believe that that is an exciting prospect for areas in West Scotland. The one that I know of is in Inverclyde, which as members will know has no lack of rainfall to provide the raw resource that is necessary to drive hydro power projects. A number of sites across Inverclyde are being looked at as potential locations for micro-hydro generation. It is hoped that they can be developed either in partnership with Scottish Water or as stand-alone community-interest companies.
By following a community-led approach, such as has been used by the Neilston community wind farm, we could empower community groups to generate additional funding for their areas while they generate electricity for the grid. Such funding could be used to help to combat fuel poverty and to improve energy efficiency in homes, or it could be used for a range of developments that are aimed at improving communities. Inverclyde Council has been investigating the possibility of hydro power schemes being in council ownership or control, as part of its approach to renewable energy generation.
It will certainly be interesting to see how those schemes develop and, I hope, combine to support communities in Inverclyde. It is of great interest to me that, in the past, much of the heavy industry in Inverclyde was powered by hydro power and that much of that infrastructure still exists. With a bit more investment, who knows what could happen?
Another positive side to community hydro schemes is that they can help to address flooding, which would be greatly advantageous in Inverclyde.
We need to make it easier for communities to come together with councils and businesses to form community interest groups to ensure that at least some of the profits of hydro power go back into those communities. For that reason, the Scottish Government’s decision to retain the level of support for the sector is significant. That will certainly be a boost to the smaller developments that are being looked at across the country. Such developments face more challenging conditions and higher risks, so maintaining of support—unlike what appears to be happening in the rest of the UK—is significant and will provide some stability for investment. Further support through streamlining planning consents will also encourage the future development of smaller facilities.
In conclusion, hydro power has a long and successful history in Scotland. It provides a significant amount of clean renewable electricity. With the continuing support of the Scottish Government, there are good prospects for the future development of hydro power in Scotland—potentially on a smaller, community-led, basis.
15:26
In the same item of business
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott)
Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-07024, in the name of Fergus Ewing, on hydro power in Scotland.You have a generous 14 minutes, minister.1...
The Minister for Energy, Enterprise and Tourism (Fergus Ewing)
SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I will revert from fortissimo to pianoforte in my tone.I very much welcome the opportunity to discuss the development of hydro ...
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Con
I fully support the expansion of hydro schemes. Hydro is a wonderful industrial success. Will the minister ensure that it is also an environmental success, i...
Fergus Ewing
SNP
I agree that environmental issues are important and must be more seriously taken into account.Mary Scanlon has somewhat spoiled my peroration, such as it was...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
I call Ken Macintosh, who has a very generous 11 minutes.14:29
Ken Macintosh (Eastwood) (Lab)
Lab
Including the minister’s four unused minutes, Presiding Officer?I suspect that many members feel, as I do, a sense of pride and achievement in Scotland’s hyd...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
I call Mary Scanlon, who has a generous seven minutes.14:40
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Con
We are delighted to contribute to this debate on hydro power in Scotland in recognition of the celebration of the 70th anniversary of the Hydro-Electric Deve...
Richard Lyle (Central Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
Hear, hear.
Mary Scanlon
Con
I thank Richard Lyle for his comments. He was very supportive in my recent members’ business debate on the subject.For all that—and all that—two contractors ...
Mike MacKenzie (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
SNP
Hydro power is perhaps the least contentious of our renewables technologies, and the lack of amendments to the motion might be evidence of that. However, tha...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Con
Does Mr MacKenzie remember those days?
Mike MacKenzie
SNP
I am grateful to Mr Fraser for introducing a note of humour into the debate.It is hard now to relate to those concerns of more than a century ago, and it is ...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
I have to say that until now I have enjoyed the history lesson that has been part of the debate.It is right that we celebrate all that has been achieved in g...
Mike MacKenzie
SNP
Does the member accept that it is the UK Government’s failure to upgrade our grid quickly enough that is limiting our ability to decarbonise the energy suppl...
Margaret McDougall
Lab
No. I will not turn around and blame the UK Government; there are things that we can do in Scotland.Supplying 100 per cent of Scotland’s energy from renewabl...
Fergus Ewing
SNP
I agree with much of what the member has said. She said that she would like the Scottish Government to do more to strengthen the grid. Given that there are p...
Margaret McDougall
Lab
Perhaps I can explain that as I go on.I fully appreciate that the Scottish Government is not solely responsible for the implementation of new hydro power sta...
Rob Gibson (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP)
SNP
Tom Johnston brought about his hydro power revolution as a result of the particular conditions of total war, when landlord opposition could be waved aside in...
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)
Lab
I am pleased to take part in the debate. Hydro power provides energy and jobs to many rural communities, and it can also play a significant part in Scotland ...
Fergus Ewing
SNP
I entirely agree that we want to do everything practical and sensible that we can to encourage communities to develop their own schemes and, when possible, t...
Claire Baker
Lab
Those are welcome comments from the minister.When I speak to people in the sector, the feeling seems to be that there is quite a gap between a community that...
Stuart McMillan (West Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
This is a timely debate that examines the past, present and future of one of Scotland’s most valuable assets—a source of renewable energy that can help to co...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD)
LD
As Margaret McDougall rightly said, we have already had a historical tour de force. I particularly commend Rob Gibson’s speech, in that respect.On the 70th a...
Mike MacKenzie
SNP
As the member for Orkney, surely Mr McArthur is frustrated with the UK Government for not getting on and putting in place the interconnector to Orkney so tha...
Liam McArthur
LD
I certainly share the frustrations of those who are looking to get on and deliver renewables, not just in Orkney but in the other island groups, but I do not...
Stuart McMillan
SNP
Will Liam McArthur give way?
Liam McArthur
LD
I will make some progress, but will come back to Mr McMillan, if I can.There seems to be a case for looking again at how degression will apply in relation to...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)
SNP
Water is important to us. That is a self-evident truth, not least because each and every one of us is made up of about 80 per cent water. Without water, ther...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith)
Lab
Mr Stevenson, will you begin to conclude, please?