Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 09 February 2011
09 Feb 2011 · S3 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Budget (Scotland) (No 5) Bill: Stage 3
It is obvious that the art of co-operation learned by the Liberal Democrats in supporting and working with us at Westminster has rubbed off at Holyrood, and I welcome that. The budget is a compromise, and it is the better for it. It is obvious that it is not a Labour budget, because it balances and does not add another £200 billion to our national debt.
The Government proclaims—as its predecessor did—that growing the Scottish economy is its top priority, but we did not think that that aim shone through the original draft budget. The Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee, the Finance Committee and many outside observers shared that sentiment. Changing the budget to promote jobs and growth was therefore vital. When I asked a panel of economists at the Finance Committee—some of whom have already been referred to—how the budget could be improved to promote economic growth and jobs, they were as clear as any group of economists could ever be expected to be. They said that investment in housing would have a quick and significant impact. Today, we have achieved significant additional investment in housing to provide additional jobs and help more Scottish families to get on the housing ladder.
The Conservatives have always believed that job creation does not come only from large firms; small businesses, including sole traders, have a part to play. Moving from being a sole trader to being an employer can be a big step, but, cumulatively, such moves across the Scottish economy can have a big economic impact. We all know that there is a well-established need to increase exports to grow the Scottish economy, so the support for exporters, start-ups and small firms in today’s announcement is good news for Scottish jobs. Together, those measures make a meaningful difference to what was in the draft budget.
Mr Kerr was keen to remind members about what has happened in this session. Over the session, the Conservatives have secured significant achievements: 1,000 additional police officers; a £60 million town centre regeneration fund; the reduction and abolition of business rates for tens of thousands of small businesses; transparency in Government spending—Scotland is the first part of the United Kingdom to have that; the Beveridge report, which changed the terms of the debate on public spending options in Scotland; and the council tax freeze. This year, in building on the draft budget, which protected NHS spending and froze public sector pay above £21,000 to protect jobs—both items were delivered by the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats at Westminster—we now have action in two crucial areas in the budget in which we sought improvement: protecting and creating jobs and beginning moves to reform public services.
The new measures for small business job creation will help small businesses throughout Scotland to take on additional staff, provide additional assistance to those who wish to start up in business and give additional help to exporters. The additional funding for housing will not only allow families to get on the housing ladder, although that is crucial; it will provide a timely boost to the construction industry and create and protect thousands of jobs—more than 5,500, according to some estimates. Other housing measures that have been announced as a result of our discussions will help first-time buyers and allow developers to get on with delivering the additional housing that Scotland needs.
In his speech, the cabinet secretary referred to the reform of absence management. We believe that that has the potential to release multimillion pound savings and to provide those who are off work through ill health with the help that they need to get back to work as soon as possible. A two-day reduction in absenteeism across the devolved public sector in Scotland would save £138 million a year. That issue needs to be tackled.
We very much welcome the commitment to make progress on access to cancer drugs. I understand that further meetings will take place on that in the near future.
All of that, of course, is on top of the welcome rejection of the additional tax on shops, which would have put jobs and investment at risk. We have learned today that that tax was entirely unnecessary.
The measures fit against the background of the Liberal-Conservative UK Government’s reducing corporation tax, lifting the lower paid out of tax, reforming the welfare state to make work pay, and providing a national insurance holiday for new Scottish start-up businesses. That is a platform for economic recovery and job creation. The Scottish and UK Governments are working together with the same aim, which is surely what all of us should seek.
I know that all parties have considered college bursaries in the debate on the budget. Today, we have a solution for the coming year, which we welcome. However, we need a solution for every year. Students, whether in further or higher education, are rightly wary of promises that politicians make before elections. It is obvious to everyone that the current funding arrangements for further and higher education and student support cannot be sustained without reductions in student numbers or in the quality of education. We need additional sources of income for the FE and HE sectors, which is why the Conservatives would like to introduce a graduate contribution. Having protected the national health service and wishing to avoid council tax rises, few options are available to reduce spending elsewhere on the scale that is required to maintain existing funding models for FE and HE.
Overall, the package of measures that has been announced today moves the budget substantially in the right direction so, as Mr Kerr correctly predicted, the Conservatives will vote for the budget today. We have secured significant progress on delivering Conservative priorities, creating jobs and reforming public services. It seems as though the Labour Party does not support those. The budget takes effect from April, so the decisions that Parliament takes today will be implemented largely in the next session of Parliament. We hope to be in a position of still greater influence in that next session but, for the avoidance of doubt, I make it clear that, if a Government of any colour seeks to remove what we have achieved in the current budget or previous ones, there will be a high price to pay. Across a range of policy areas, we have delivered substantial achievements and we will vote for the budget to deliver more.
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The Government proclaims—as its predecessor did—that growing the Scottish economy is its top priority, but we did not think that that aim shone through the original draft budget. The Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee, the Finance Committee and many outside observers shared that sentiment. Changing the budget to promote jobs and growth was therefore vital. When I asked a panel of economists at the Finance Committee—some of whom have already been referred to—how the budget could be improved to promote economic growth and jobs, they were as clear as any group of economists could ever be expected to be. They said that investment in housing would have a quick and significant impact. Today, we have achieved significant additional investment in housing to provide additional jobs and help more Scottish families to get on the housing ladder.
The Conservatives have always believed that job creation does not come only from large firms; small businesses, including sole traders, have a part to play. Moving from being a sole trader to being an employer can be a big step, but, cumulatively, such moves across the Scottish economy can have a big economic impact. We all know that there is a well-established need to increase exports to grow the Scottish economy, so the support for exporters, start-ups and small firms in today’s announcement is good news for Scottish jobs. Together, those measures make a meaningful difference to what was in the draft budget.
Mr Kerr was keen to remind members about what has happened in this session. Over the session, the Conservatives have secured significant achievements: 1,000 additional police officers; a £60 million town centre regeneration fund; the reduction and abolition of business rates for tens of thousands of small businesses; transparency in Government spending—Scotland is the first part of the United Kingdom to have that; the Beveridge report, which changed the terms of the debate on public spending options in Scotland; and the council tax freeze. This year, in building on the draft budget, which protected NHS spending and froze public sector pay above £21,000 to protect jobs—both items were delivered by the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats at Westminster—we now have action in two crucial areas in the budget in which we sought improvement: protecting and creating jobs and beginning moves to reform public services.
The new measures for small business job creation will help small businesses throughout Scotland to take on additional staff, provide additional assistance to those who wish to start up in business and give additional help to exporters. The additional funding for housing will not only allow families to get on the housing ladder, although that is crucial; it will provide a timely boost to the construction industry and create and protect thousands of jobs—more than 5,500, according to some estimates. Other housing measures that have been announced as a result of our discussions will help first-time buyers and allow developers to get on with delivering the additional housing that Scotland needs.
In his speech, the cabinet secretary referred to the reform of absence management. We believe that that has the potential to release multimillion pound savings and to provide those who are off work through ill health with the help that they need to get back to work as soon as possible. A two-day reduction in absenteeism across the devolved public sector in Scotland would save £138 million a year. That issue needs to be tackled.
We very much welcome the commitment to make progress on access to cancer drugs. I understand that further meetings will take place on that in the near future.
All of that, of course, is on top of the welcome rejection of the additional tax on shops, which would have put jobs and investment at risk. We have learned today that that tax was entirely unnecessary.
The measures fit against the background of the Liberal-Conservative UK Government’s reducing corporation tax, lifting the lower paid out of tax, reforming the welfare state to make work pay, and providing a national insurance holiday for new Scottish start-up businesses. That is a platform for economic recovery and job creation. The Scottish and UK Governments are working together with the same aim, which is surely what all of us should seek.
I know that all parties have considered college bursaries in the debate on the budget. Today, we have a solution for the coming year, which we welcome. However, we need a solution for every year. Students, whether in further or higher education, are rightly wary of promises that politicians make before elections. It is obvious to everyone that the current funding arrangements for further and higher education and student support cannot be sustained without reductions in student numbers or in the quality of education. We need additional sources of income for the FE and HE sectors, which is why the Conservatives would like to introduce a graduate contribution. Having protected the national health service and wishing to avoid council tax rises, few options are available to reduce spending elsewhere on the scale that is required to maintain existing funding models for FE and HE.
Overall, the package of measures that has been announced today moves the budget substantially in the right direction so, as Mr Kerr correctly predicted, the Conservatives will vote for the budget today. We have secured significant progress on delivering Conservative priorities, creating jobs and reforming public services. It seems as though the Labour Party does not support those. The budget takes effect from April, so the decisions that Parliament takes today will be implemented largely in the next session of Parliament. We hope to be in a position of still greater influence in that next session but, for the avoidance of doubt, I make it clear that, if a Government of any colour seeks to remove what we have achieved in the current budget or previous ones, there will be a high price to pay. Across a range of policy areas, we have delivered substantial achievements and we will vote for the budget to deliver more.
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In the same item of business
The Presiding Officer (Alex Fergusson)
NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S3M-7899, in the name of John Swinney, on the Budget (Scotland) (No 5) Bill. I advise members that time is pr...
The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Sustainable Growth (John Swinney)
SNP
Parliament approved the general principles of the Budget (Scotland) (No 5) Bill in last month’s stage 1 debate. Since then, I have continued to hold extensiv...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
Order. I am sorry, but since the cabinet secretary began speaking, I have heard an almost non-stop running commentary from some members on my right, particul...
John Swinney
SNP
I have set out today a package of measures that I believe responds effectively to the issues that have been raised with me since the draft budget was publish...
Andy Kerr (East Kilbride) (Lab)
Lab
Of course, a Government’s budget is not only a list of spending commitments such as the one that we have just heard. Cumulatively, over the years, line by li...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
One moment, Mr Kerr. You have made your point. The cabinet secretary was heard in relative silence and I ask that Mr Kerr receive the same treatment.
Andy Kerr
Lab
I have met Mr Swinney and his colleagues on many occasions in the past few weeks to discuss matters that are dear to our hearts. While we have been having th...
John Swinney
SNP
Does Mr Kerr acknowledge that unemployment in Scotland is falling, while unemployment in the rest of the United Kingdom is rising, and that the measures that...
Andy Kerr
Lab
Mr Swinney offers box ticking on arrangements around parties. He offers half measures while Labour offers full measures. The SNP Government has been saved by...
John Swinney
SNP
Will Mr Kerr share with Parliament which of the proposals that I have announced this afternoon he does not support?
Andy Kerr
Lab
We do not want half measures. Labour offers full measures and we will ensure that we deliver those in government. The budget has moved 0.1 per cent. Let us r...
Alasdair Allan (Western Isles) (SNP)
SNP
Will the member give way?
Andy Kerr
Lab
In a second, when the member might answer my next point.We have been nothing but consistent in our view of this Government’s investment in infrastructure. It...
Alasdair Allan
SNP
Does the fact that the member has been unable to identify which of the cabinet secretary’s measures he disagrees with explain why he failed to lodge any amen...
Andy Kerr
Lab
From my eight years in government, I recall that the SNP lodged only one amendment to the budget. I also recall that in the negotiations around the SNP Gover...
Derek Brownlee (South of Scotland) (Con)
Con
Mr Kerr was right in one respect: that was certainly a vision, although perhaps not quite the vision that he wants to portray to the Scottish people.The budg...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
Order.
Derek Brownlee
Con
It is obvious that the art of co-operation learned by the Liberal Democrats in supporting and working with us at Westminster has rubbed off at Holyrood, and ...
Jeremy Purvis (Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale) (LD)
LD
Yesterday, I spoke to a major employer in my constituency where there are major concerns about the future of a number of jobs. The company has a heritage tha...
Derek Brownlee
Con
I think the member forgot to say that they also wrecked the public finances.
Jeremy Purvis
LD
Well, indeed, but I had not finished quoting Mr Miliband’s Fabian Society speech. If Labour—
Andy Kerr
Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Jeremy Purvis
LD
I will in a moment, because I am sure that Mr Kerr will wish to reply to Mr Miliband, so I will give him the opportunity to do so.If Mr Kerr’s vision has bee...
Andy Kerr
Lab
I refer the member to my earlier speech. We stand for the progressive majority in Scotland, but on the point—Interruption.
The Presiding Officer
NPA
Order.
Andy Kerr
Lab
What would he say to his UK coalition partners—the Lib Dems have made the biggest mistake in UK politics for a long time—about regulation? They advocated to ...
Jeremy Purvis
LD
If Mr Miliband’s statement was a flip, that was definitely a flop, Mr Kerr.When Scotland’s Colleges made a public statement that it was concerned that the re...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
Order. There is still too much background noise on a continual basis from members right across the chamber. Let us hear one speech at a time.
Jeremy Purvis
LD
It is not just a political gain for the Liberal Democrats or any other political party; it is a gain for students, such as the students at Borders College wh...
Johann Lamont (Glasgow Pollok) (Lab)
Lab
Will the member take an intervention?