Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 29 May 2013
29 May 2013 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Automatic External Defibrillators
I, too, congratulate my colleague Margaret Mitchell on securing the debate so that we can acknowledge the work of the AEDs in Scotland campaign, which seeks to extend the availability of automatic external defibrillators in schools and public places and in remote areas, where it is difficult for an ambulance to respond quickly.
It is a sobering thought that 12 young people still die each week in the UK from sudden cardiac arrhythmia, usually ventricular fibrillation, which can kill within minutes in the absence of a defibrillator and effective CPR. Most of those victims are very fit young people and often skilled athletes.
Cardiac arrest can of course occur in all age groups or as the result of an accident. It is important that as many people as possible know how to deal appropriately with such a serious emergency. In the old days when I was a young doctor, defibrillators were scary pieces of equipment and quite difficult to use safely and effectively. Now, however, the modern automatic external defibrillators are very user-friendly and quite easy for members of the public to operate.
Sudden death in young people from cardiac arrhythmia was brought to my attention very soon after I became an MSP 10 years ago by the redoubtable Wilma Gunn from Selkirk, who lost her son from that cause. She asked me and several other MSPs to be a patron of her charity, Scottish Heart at Risk Testing, for which she campaigned tirelessly. Scottish HART had the twin purposes of seeking cardiac screening for all young people taking part in strenuous sport and of raising funds to put defibrillators in strategic places such as football grounds and sports stadia. I do not know how many such machines Scottish HART funded, but there were many, not least in the Dons home ground of Pittodrie, in Aberdeen.
I remember facilitating a meeting in St Andrew’s house with Malcolm Chisholm, when he was a health minister, civil servants, Wilma Gunn and Professor Hillis from Glasgow, an expert in sudden cardiac arrest, to discuss the feasibility of screening young people who might be at risk. The perceived wisdom at the time was that large-scale screening was not appropriate, but things moved on. I believe that such screening is now available for young athletes, but the minister might be able to correct me if I am wrong on that.
It is important to raise awareness of the possibility of sudden cardiac arrest and what can be done to save the lives of those who fall victim to it. Widespread distribution of AEDs is needed, together with, as has been pointed out, educating people from an early age in how to recognise cardiac arrest, how to do CPR and how to use an AED.
Samantha Clinton is to be congratulated on her efforts to have a defibrillator placed in every school in her local authority area and on designing colouring sheets for local primary school pupils that are aimed at teaching parents about sudden cardiac arrest. I am sure that her work could be used as a template for other council areas and would help to spread the word about how to recognise and cope with a potentially fatal cardiac collapse.
I thank Margaret Mitchell again for highlighting the excellent work in her region and other parts of Scotland, and I look forward to hearing the minister’s response to the debate.
17:25
It is a sobering thought that 12 young people still die each week in the UK from sudden cardiac arrhythmia, usually ventricular fibrillation, which can kill within minutes in the absence of a defibrillator and effective CPR. Most of those victims are very fit young people and often skilled athletes.
Cardiac arrest can of course occur in all age groups or as the result of an accident. It is important that as many people as possible know how to deal appropriately with such a serious emergency. In the old days when I was a young doctor, defibrillators were scary pieces of equipment and quite difficult to use safely and effectively. Now, however, the modern automatic external defibrillators are very user-friendly and quite easy for members of the public to operate.
Sudden death in young people from cardiac arrhythmia was brought to my attention very soon after I became an MSP 10 years ago by the redoubtable Wilma Gunn from Selkirk, who lost her son from that cause. She asked me and several other MSPs to be a patron of her charity, Scottish Heart at Risk Testing, for which she campaigned tirelessly. Scottish HART had the twin purposes of seeking cardiac screening for all young people taking part in strenuous sport and of raising funds to put defibrillators in strategic places such as football grounds and sports stadia. I do not know how many such machines Scottish HART funded, but there were many, not least in the Dons home ground of Pittodrie, in Aberdeen.
I remember facilitating a meeting in St Andrew’s house with Malcolm Chisholm, when he was a health minister, civil servants, Wilma Gunn and Professor Hillis from Glasgow, an expert in sudden cardiac arrest, to discuss the feasibility of screening young people who might be at risk. The perceived wisdom at the time was that large-scale screening was not appropriate, but things moved on. I believe that such screening is now available for young athletes, but the minister might be able to correct me if I am wrong on that.
It is important to raise awareness of the possibility of sudden cardiac arrest and what can be done to save the lives of those who fall victim to it. Widespread distribution of AEDs is needed, together with, as has been pointed out, educating people from an early age in how to recognise cardiac arrest, how to do CPR and how to use an AED.
Samantha Clinton is to be congratulated on her efforts to have a defibrillator placed in every school in her local authority area and on designing colouring sheets for local primary school pupils that are aimed at teaching parents about sudden cardiac arrest. I am sure that her work could be used as a template for other council areas and would help to spread the word about how to recognise and cope with a potentially fatal cardiac collapse.
I thank Margaret Mitchell again for highlighting the excellent work in her region and other parts of Scotland, and I look forward to hearing the minister’s response to the debate.
17:25
In the same item of business
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith)
Lab
The final item of business today is a members’ business debate on motion S4M-06362, in the name of Margaret Mitchell, on automatic external defibrillators in...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con)
Con
The campaign for AEDs, or automatic external defibrillators, in Scotland is run by first-aiders Laura and Paul Macadam-Slater, who briefed MSPs about the iss...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
Excuse me, Mrs Mitchell. Could I stop you for a moment? People who are leaving the gallery should do so quietly. Parliament is in session.
Margaret Mitchell
Con
The survival chances of people who are affected by cardiac arrest decrease by 14 per cent for every minute without defibrillation. Furthermore, 70 per cent o...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
Thank you very much. I apologise for the earlier interruption.I ask for four-minute speeches, as we are quite tight for time.17:12
Aileen McLeod (South Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
First, I congratulate Margaret Mitchell on securing the debate. I must also give my apologies, as I will have to leave the chamber before the minister respon...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab)
Lab
I congratulate Margaret Mitchell on lodging this important motion and I look forward to the rest of the debate, including the minister’s speech, because the ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
I must ask you to conclude.
Malcolm Chisholm
Lab
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Nanette Milne (North East Scotland) (Con)
Con
I, too, congratulate my colleague Margaret Mitchell on securing the debate so that we can acknowledge the work of the AEDs in Scotland campaign, which seeks ...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)
SNP
I am sure that it is a great relief to members that the Minister for Public Health is here to respond to the debate. As I recall, he was a member of Scotland...
Siobhan McMahon (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
I congratulate Margaret Mitchell on bringing the debate to the Parliament.I have spoken in the Parliament about the use of AEDs in Scotland, so I welcome the...
Fiona McLeod (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP)
SNP
I, too, thank Margaret Mitchell for bringing the debate to the Parliament. In following Siobhan McMahon, I remember her members’ business debate in November ...
The Minister for Public Health (Michael Matheson)
SNP
As others have done, I congratulate Margaret Mitchell on securing time for this important debate.The sudden and unexpected death of a young person that has b...