Committee
Enterprise and Culture Committee, 13 Mar 2007
13 Mar 2007 · S2 · Enterprise and Culture Committee
Item of business
Sport 21 and Sports Policy
This is an interesting discussion but, to be slightly provocative for a moment, it feels as if we are perhaps not being as challenging, either with ourselves or with one another, as we could or should be. I will throw a few thoughts into the melting pot for others to shoot down as they see fit. I have heard a lot today about what a good document "Reaching Higher" is, but that is what it is—a document. Like Karen Gillon, I want to hear more about what has changed, what has worked and what has improved, and not just over the past four years. Eight years ago, when I was a campaigns spokesperson for the Labour Party during the first elections to the Scottish Parliament, I was involved in discussions about sport 21, for example, and our aspirations post-devolution. I am sorry, but the rhetoric has not changed much. That is not necessarily a bad thing—in a sense, it is a good thing that people are united around a set of aspirations, but we have to do more to get behind what stands in the way of our reaching them. That is neither an explicit nor an implied criticism of Government per se; it is just that we need to drill deeper into why we sometimes all sign up to the same direction of travel but nothing happens. I raise two specific issues in that regard. I hope that no one is offended by what I am about to say, but I want to prompt debate and hold up a mirror to today's discussion. People who are not involved in policy making or in the kind of conversations that we are all used to having could be forgiven for not hearing an awful lot about the human reality faced by them, their communities, schools, families, parents and so on. All of us—I am no better or worse than anyone else in this respect—lapse into discussions about the sports agenda, the health agenda, the physical activity agenda and the education agenda. It strikes me that there is some basic, commonsense stuff here about what constitutes happy, healthy kids and communities—well-being, in the broadest sense. We need to give youngsters in particular a whole host of different opportunities, not just in sport—there is a parallel here with activities such as drama, as well as mainstream academic activities and so on. We may be reinforcing the problems by thinking about the issues in silos or under agendas, rather than thinking about the human dimension. I wonder whether, rather than reinventing strategies and continually finessing the analysis, we would be better having a hard-edged but practical conversation about what can be done to free up local activity, participation and involvement. Some of that can be driven from the top down, but an awful lot of it is about coming in behind what happens locally. All of us have seen absolutely transformational activities taking place around us, and I worry that we do not often enough ask the people who are leading those activities, "What could or should be done—or not be done—to enable you to do more and better?"My final point is on the issue of top performance, which Dougie Donnelly mentioned. I like the way in which the Scottish Institute of Sport, unlike many other organisations in Scottish life, uses the word "elite" without choking on it. Perhaps the roots of this issue are to be found in the Scottish psyche, but I feel that we too often pose a false dichotomy between excellence and participation. That happens not just in sport but in other areas of life. I wonder whether we perhaps need to lighten up about that. All of us know, both analytically and from practical experience, that both things are needed. Youngsters who will struggle to run from one end of the playing field to the other need to be enabled at least to have a go, but it is every bit as important that we ensure that we have the next Liz McColgan or Yvonne Murray coming along. We need to create role models, too. Do others share my sense that we are struggling conceptually with that issue in posing a false dichotomy between excellence and participation?
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The Convener (Alex Neil):
SNP
I welcome everybody to the sixth meeting of the Enterprise and Culture Committee in 2007, which is the last full meeting of the committee apart from our meet...
Christine May (Central Fife) (Lab):
Lab
I am the member of the Scottish Parliament for Central Fife.
Pat Morrison (Scottish Executive Education Department):
I work in the sports division of the Executive. My responsibilities include the new sports strategy and the participation end of sport. There are two other t...
Professor Fred Coalter (University of Stirling):
I am professor of sports policy at the University of Stirling.
Julia Bracewell (sportscotland):
I am the chair of sportscotland and of the Scottish steering group for the 2012 Olympics.
Chris Robison (Scottish Sports Association):
I am the policy director of the Scottish Sports Association, which is the umbrella body for governing bodies of sport in Scotland.
Shiona Baird (North East Scotland) (Green):
Green
I am an MSP for North East Scotland.
Ian Reid (Scottish Sports Futures):
I am the founder of the Scottish Sports Futures charity. In the interest of clarity, I state also that I own part of the Scottish Rocks professional basketba...
Gavin Macleod (Scottish Disability Sport):
I am the chief executive officer of Scottish Disability Sport.
Paul Bush (EventScotland):
I am the deputy chief executive of EventScotland.
Karen Gillon (Clydesdale) (Lab):
Lab
I am the MSP for Clydesdale.
David Arnott (Scottish Association of Local Sports Councils):
I am the administrator of the Scottish Association of Local Sports Councils. Our membership consists of 69 local sports councils and local authorities in Sco...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con):
Con
I am an MSP for Mid Scotland and Fife.
Gavin Hastings (Platinum One (Scotland)):
I am the chairman of Platinum One (Scotland), which is a sports and events marketing agency.
Mr Stewart Maxwell (West of Scotland) (SNP):
SNP
I am an MSP for the West of Scotland.
Steven Grimmond (Fife Council):
I am the head of community services at Fife Council, which covers responsibility for sport. I am also a member of the board of sportscotland.
Susan Deacon (Edinburgh East and Musselburgh) (Lab):
Lab
I am the MSP for Edinburgh East and Musselburgh.
Dougie Donnelly (Scottish Institute of Sport):
I am the chairman of the Scottish Institute of Sport and of the Commonwealth Games (Scotland) Endowment Fund. In my day job, I am a sports broadcaster.
The Convener:
SNP
We also have with us reporters from the official report, which is the equivalent of Hansard; Stephen Imrie and his clerking team; and Stephen Herbert, from S...
Julia Bracewell:
"Reaching Higher" is a Scottish Executive document, and I will defer to Pat Morrison on the Executive's priorities. The document clearly sets out the roles a...
The Convener:
SNP
I should draw everybody's attention to page 12 of the SPICe briefing, which gives the possible main themes for us to tackle. Anybody who wants to speak shoul...
Dougie Donnelly:
I congratulate everyone who was involved in producing "Reaching Higher", which is an impressive and excellent piece of work, and I welcome the Executive's cl...
The Convener:
SNP
What do we need to do to get the extra athletes we will need?
Dougie Donnelly:
The governing bodies need to be given a lot of support because that is principally their responsibility, along with the partner organisations such as sportsc...
The Convener:
SNP
Are the governing bodies getting the support that they need?
Julia Bracewell:
We have to do much more work on that. To get athletes coming through in the required numbers, we have to start investing much further down the pathway in ath...
Chris Robison:
I echo that. It is crucial that the governing bodies ensure that there is funding across the spectrum. I am little bit more confident; I think that we will h...
Professor Coalter:
I will follow on from what Chris Robison was saying about school sport. There is a danger in confusing the physical activity agenda and the sport agenda, and...
The Convener:
SNP
Do you think that it is?
Professor Coalter:
The gossip that I hear says that it is. One of the problems is that schools now intensely emphasise academic achievement but, if I may be academic for a mome...