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Meeting of the Parliament 07 May 2013

07 May 2013 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Flood Insurance Problems
Baker, Claire Lab Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV
I thank the minister for that. I do not know what the intentions of the committee are, but it might be helpful if the minister could respond to the committee in a more formal way about where we expect to be by July.

On the issue of moving away from the statement of principles, it is right to reflect that, whether or not the new development is a positive one and whether or not the statement has delivered for home owners, it has been claimed that it secured the availability of flood insurance to communities that are at risk of flooding and that it ensured that the Scottish Government invested in flood risk management measures. It is of concern, however, that the evidence from COSLA said anecdotally that

“even for those areas which have adequate flood defence schemes in situ, access to insurance can be an issue in some communities due to the unwillingness of the insurance industry to provide cover.”

The forthcoming change presents challenges for the Scottish Government, which need to be resolved urgently. It is only two months until the statement of principles expires. The report to which Chic Brodie referred, “Flood Insurance Provision and Affordability” from CREW—the centre of expertise for waters—found that

“lower income and non-homeowner groups were also the most likely to have no insurance”.

The report went on to suggest that, after July, insurance rates will move closer to the market rate, which would place a heavier burden on people who live in high-risk areas.

Concerns have been raised about the availability of accurate information on the risks in Scotland. As other members have said, the CREW report highlighted a particular area of concern that had been expressed by the insurance industry: the

“difficulty to date in accessing information on improvements which may substantially reduce the flood risk for individual properties”.

Surely that can be resolved. I welcome the minister’s assurances on that issue this afternoon.

Another concern is about quantifying the risk of surface water flooding. No map is available for surface water flood risk. The situation might soon change, with the planned update of SEPA’s indicative river and coastal flood map and the development of local flood risk management plans by 2016. That would still leave an information gap, however, while the system for calculating insurance is set to change.

The CREW report found that, although they are underrepresented in high-risk areas, 41,000 people on very low incomes are identified as being “at risk”. There are further concerns that changes to the insurance market could have an impact on people who are just outside the most income-deprived groups, and the survey that was undertaken suggests that that might be the case.

It is estimated that one in 22 households is at risk, and there is a further risk for people who only require contents insurance: if costs go up more than they are able or willing to pay, they might stop having any insurance. Evidence to the committee from the insurer Adrian Webb highlights the possibility that that could be an issue, as

“The worst cases that insurers see involve people who believe that they will never be flooded but who are suddenly hit by a catastrophic flash flood. Those people are the ones for whom the Government becomes the insurer of last resort.” [Official Report, Public Petitions Committee, 2 October 2012; c 788.]

In those circumstances, it should be asked which Government would be able to provide that level of security for home owners.

The petition raised the issue of cross-subsidy, and suggested that a separate flood insurance pool would be appropriate for Scotland. That is becoming less of an issue, however, as the insurance providers want to move to a system that recognises higher levels of risk. Once that becomes the practice, the issue of cross-subsidy becomes less noticeable—although the extent of it has been questioned by some commentators.

In addition, future predictions suggest a greater, not smaller, risk for Scotland. Although a changed system might suit some customers—although it is unlikely to lead to a reduction in premiums—it has the potential to impact more heavily on low-income and high-risk households across the UK.

The petition has focused minds on the immediate problem that faces home insurance, as well as highlighting on-going challenges. The Stop Climate Chaos Scotland briefing highlights the fact that

“SEPA have estimated average annual losses of between £720 million to £850 million from flooding of buildings and agricultural land ... Work by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation has shown that coastal communities are on the front line from increased flooding”.

The foundation has also highlighted the need for “socially just adaptation” to predicted climate change impacts such as flooding.

Preparation of Scotland for future climate challenges is important. For many households, how they protect themselves will change in a matter of weeks. The Scottish Government has heard the arguments. It now needs to be clear about the consequences and solutions for Scottish households.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-06455, in the name of Chic Brodie, on behalf of the Public Petitions Committee, on petition PE1441, which...
Chic Brodie (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer—and I noted your hesitation before you said “14 minutes”.I am pleased to open this debate on the motion in my name on behalf of ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call the Minister for Environment and Climate Change, Paul Wheelhouse, who has a minimum of 10 minutes for his speech. I remind members who wish to take pa...
The Minister for Environment and Climate Change (Paul Wheelhouse) SNP
The provision and affordability of flood insurance is vitally important to residents and businesses in flood risk areas. Insurance is essential for people to...
Jackson Carlaw (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I am intrigued that the minister said that he has been able to ensure that Scottish interests are represented. Are there particular Scottish interests that h...
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
Chic Brodie alluded to that point, which I will come to. There are some clear differences with regard to the risk faced by Scottish householders. The treatme...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
At what point will we be able to quantify the cost of the potential options for addressing the priorities in terms of those flood risk areas?
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
I assume—I hope that there will be a physical nod in my direction if I am right—that Sarah Boyack is referring to the potentially vulnerable areas and the co...
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
The Flood Risk Management (Scotland) Act 2009 sets out for each potentially vulnerable area an indicative figure of the cost of the schemes. In practice, our...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
I call Claire Baker, who has a very generous eight minutes.14:44
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I thank Professor David Crichton for submitting the petition on flood insurance, and the Public Petitions Committee for bringing the debate to the chamber.Th...
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
On transitional arrangements, any solution that the industry proposes might take some years to have its full impact because of the nature of the model that m...
Claire Baker Lab
I thank the minister for that. I do not know what the intentions of the committee are, but it might be helpful if the minister could respond to the committee...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Many thanks. To Alex Johnstone I give a very generous seven minutes.14:54
Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Presiding Officer, thank you very much for your generosity. I will see what I can do.I very much welcome the fact that the Public Petitions Committee has dec...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
We move to the open debate. I call Nigel Don, who has a very generous six minutes. You can be loquacious, Mr Don.15:02
Nigel Don (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I am grateful for your generosity, and I am sure that my constituents—one of whom is Alex Johnstone—will be, too, because, sadl...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Take as much time as you like.
Nigel Don SNP
That is a risky thing to say. Okay.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Within reason.
Nigel Don SNP
We talk about once in 75 years, once in 100 years and once in 200 years flood risks. I think that Chic Brodie mentioned once in 75 years flood risks. We will...
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
I will help to extend the speech a little bit longer.In Brechin, in which I know the member has an interest, in terms of a once in 200 years flood risk, the ...
Nigel Don SNP
We have gone from the numbers to the solutions, but I absolutely agree. That comes back to my basic point that we are never going to prevent floods; what we ...
Anne McTaggart (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
As a member of the Public Petitions Committee, I welcome this debate on Professor David Crichton’s petition, in which he calls on the Scottish Parliament to ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I call Maureen Watt. You have a generous six minutes.15:19
Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer.Although I am a substitute member of the Public Petitions Committee, I was not involved in hearing the evidence on the topic. Ho...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I call Marco Biagi.15:27
Marco Biagi (Edinburgh Central) (SNP) SNP
Are you still being generous, Presiding Officer?
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Pretty generous, yes. We will use up our time eventually, but at the moment you are fine.
Marco Biagi SNP
You could easily be mistaken for Father Christmas today.As many members said, two issues are at play. One is Professor Crichton’s direct call, in his petitio...