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Meeting of the Parliament 02 May 2013

02 May 2013 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Community Justice System
I know that the mood in the chamber is more sombre than usual, given events and the debate that has just taken place, but I am grateful that members have agreed to participate in this debate; their comments and thoughts will be important.

I am pleased to open the debate on redesigning the community justice system in Scotland. Reoffending is an important issue that affects everyone: it creates victims, damages communities and wastes potential. Audit Scotland has estimated the total social and economic cost of reoffending at approximately £3 billion per annum. That is why it is imperative that the arrangements that are in place to plan, manage and deliver offender services in the community maximise the potential for delivery of positive outcomes for victims, communities and offenders.

I commend the hard work of our partners in the statutory and third sectors—including in community justice, health, housing and education—in tackling reoffending over the past five years. I have seen at first hand the excellent work that is being done throughout the country.

The new community payback order has been successfully implemented, with 10,228 orders commenced between April 2011 and March 2012. As a result, 934,502 hours of unpaid work or other activity have been undertaken in communities throughout Scotland.

The whole-system approach for young people continues to be rolled out throughout Scotland, resulting in a decrease of 32 per cent in recorded crimes and offences committed by young people between 2008-09 and 2011-12. Most recently, we have invested £7.7 million in a national network of mentoring schemes, which are to be provided by partnerships between the third sector and the public sector and will target women offenders and prolific offenders who are at risk of committing more crimes. Reoffending rates are now at their lowest in more than a decade, and recorded crime is at a 37-year low.

Although all that is progress in the right direction, a series of recent reports have highlighted shortcomings in community justice and have called—understandably—for urgent action. Those included Audit Scotland’s report, “An overview of Scotland’s criminal justice system”, which was published in September 2011, and the report by the Parliament’s Public Audit Committee, which took evidence on the findings of the Audit Scotland report. Both highlighted concerns about the lack of information on the range, capacity and effectiveness of offender services, as well as about the accountability arrangements for community justice authorities.

Although there are many different bodies involved in reducing reoffending, CJAs, which were created by the Management of Offenders etc (Scotland) Act 2005, are the main bodies responsible for setting the direction and priorities on reducing reoffending in their geographical areas. CJAs are not directly accountable to Scottish ministers or to local authorities, although we monitor how they discharge their statutory functions. Criminal justice social work in local authorities continues to provide offender services including community payback orders and services for offenders leaving prison, as well as commissioning services from the third sector.

That set-up has created a confusing picture. Indeed, the effectiveness of those arrangements was questioned in the report of the commission on women offenders—which was chaired by Dame Elish Angiolini—that was published in April 2012. It found that

“there still exist inherent barriers in the structural and funding systems for criminal justice social work, and working practices which inhibit greatly the potential to reduce reoffending.”

The report stated that CJAs

“brought an extra layer of complexity, disproportionate in a jurisdiction of five million people”.

It called for “radical reform” and the establishment of a national community justice service to plan, manage and deliver offender services in the community.

Most recently, Audit Scotland’s report “Reducing reoffending in Scotland”, which was published in November last year, said on community justice authorities:

“The way they were set up has significantly limited their effectiveness”.

Audit Scotland called for

“stronger leadership at national, regional and local level if reoffending is to be tackled effectively”.

In summary, it is evident that the status quo is no longer tenable, which is why on 20 December last year we, as a Government, published a consultation paper that set out options for redesigning the community justice system. Before I get into the detail of the issues involved, I will set out our vision of a successful community justice system.

We want a more efficient and effective system with strong and visible leadership at national and local levels, collaborative working across the public and third sectors, and robust accountability. Offender services should be built around people’s needs, based on evidence of what works and what offers best value for money. Local partnership, with the engagement and commitment of non-justice partners including housing, education and health is critical to success. Service users, their families and the wider community should be routinely involved in the planning, delivery and review of services in order to help to improve performance and outcomes. In addition, there should be a strong focus on prevention and early intervention.

We are under no illusions that structural change alone will result in transformation of the community justice system; we also need a shift in culture. At the heart of any reforms should be the development and empowerment of practitioners, managers and leaders who work with offenders in the public and third sectors. Unlike the United Kingdom coalition Government, we have no plans to outsource to the private sector the management of offenders in the community. We value highly the professional contribution of our public sector criminal justice social workers and others who work in community justice. We want to use this opportunity to reform the existing arrangements to help to make best use of their skills, knowledge and expertise.

Our vision of a reformed community justice system acknowledges the findings of the Christie commission and is consistent with our wider public service reform programme, including the integration of adult health and social care and the review of community planning partnerships. The consultation paper sets out three possible options for reform, which were developed with input from the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, the Association of Directors of Social Work and CJAs. I thank them for their assistance.

Option A is an enhanced community justice authority model, in which changes would be made to CJA membership and functions, including widening of their membership to include an appointed member of the health board, and expansion of their statutory functions to include strategic commissioning of services.

Option B is a local authority model, in which CJAs would be abolished and local authorities would assume responsibility for the strategic planning, design and delivery of offender services in the community.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-06433, in the name of Kenny MacAskill, on redesigning the community justice system.
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Kenny MacAskill) SNP
I know that the mood in the chamber is more sombre than usual, given events and the debate that has just taken place, but I am grateful that members have agr...
Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Can the cabinet secretary clarify whether, if option B was chosen, consideration would be given to the fact that some local authorities that have areas of ve...
Kenny MacAskill SNP
Those matters will have to be discussed in detail. The funding formula that we use takes account of the additional pressure that many areas face as a result ...
Lewis Macdonald (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the cabinet secretary’s closing comments. We will take up his offer of further discussion outwith the forum of parliamentary debate.There is genera...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I think that Lewis Macdonald will be aware that, with the new governor at Polmont prison, there is a new culture and determination that the expression “purpo...
Lewis Macdonald Lab
I am grateful for that intervention. I do not doubt for a moment the commitment of many leaders in the Scottish Prison Service to achieving precisely that ch...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I welcome the debate because it gives Parliament the opportunity to examine why the current arrangement for strategic and operational responsibility with reg...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We move to the open debate, with speeches of six minutes. We have a little bit of time in hand for interventions.15:30
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
This week, I had the good fortune to be briefed by Rob Strachan, the chief officer of Lothian and Borders community justice authority. It is important to sta...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab) Lab
The debate’s timing is rather unfortunate. The consultation principle has always been central to the Parliament, and it would have been better to wait until ...
Colin Keir (Edinburgh Western) (SNP) SNP
It is clear that there is a fair degree of agreement across the chamber this afternoon. I associate myself with many of the comments that other members have ...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I acknowledge the speeches from all members thus far and I associate myself with many of the comments that have been made. I welcome the cabinet secretary’s ...
Margaret Mitchell Con
Does Graeme Pearson agree that the meaningful and purposeful activity that he refers to can be delivered in so-called short-term sentences? Putting people in...
Graeme Pearson Lab
Yes. When a prisoner is in custody 24/7, there are always avenues for delivery, if there is the will to deliver, the necessary support, the health interventi...
Roderick Campbell (North East Fife) (SNP) SNP
Recorded crime is at a 37-year low, and the number of first-time offenders is falling. However, around half of the number who receive a short custodial sent...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
We know that the economic and social cost of offending and reoffending is immense, and we pour so many resources into picking up the pieces. Lives are ruined...
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
Perhaps I am the only one—I do not know—but I am pleased to speak in the debate. I take on board what everyone has said, but the more we discuss the communit...
Mary Fee (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Today’s debate seems premature given that the consultation finished only two days ago and we are awaiting the responses and conclusions. However, like other ...
Sandra White SNP
Perhaps Mary Fee will be able to educate me on the CJAs. She said that various members of CJAs had contacted her. Would she say that the CJAs work differentl...
Mary Fee Lab
I think that CJAs work in broadly the same manner in different local authorities. I am perhaps fortunate in that I was a local authority member before I came...
Christine Grahame SNP
Can I tempt Mary Fee with option D?
Mary Fee Lab
I thank Christine Grahame for her intervention—I will hold my decision on option D for a bit longer, if that is all right.Before the debate, I had the opport...
Willie Coffey (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP) SNP
It has been highlighted already that the total economic and social cost of reoffending in Scotland is about £3 billion a year. According to the Audit Scotlan...
Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the debate and, like Sandra White, I am quite happy to speak on an important subject. It is important to get the structure to deliver community jus...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
We move to closing speeches. I call Annabel Goldie, who has six minutes or thereby.16:36
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I welcome both the Scottish Government’s recent consultation and this afternoon’s debate on redesigning the community justice system. That matters not only b...
Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I reiterate what other members have said about the timing of today’s debate. Two days after the closure of the consultation is perhaps a little too soon to d...
Kenny MacAskill SNP
Did the member not listen when we said quite clearly that the proposal—whether it is A, B or C—would not come into effect until the spring of 2016? Given tha...
Jenny Marra Lab
Fanciful or not, those are not my words but the words of a leader of a community justice authority, and they are a response to the cabinet secretary’s motion...