Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 19 September 2012
19 Sep 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Patient Care
Unfortunately, Jackie Baillie’s problem is that her leader overruled her at the time that we are talking about. On “Newsnight Scotland”, Iain Gray said:
“We wouldn’t ring fence the health budget.”
We will take no lectures from a party that was not committed to protecting the NHS budget when we were prepared to do so. There is no hypocrisy on the SNP side of the chamber, but it is certainly present on the Labour side of the chamber.
I have no doubt that members across the chamber hear concerns about the NHS from their constituents. As a constituency MSP, I hear those concerns. I recognise that the NHS does not always get it right, but the Government is committed to ensuring that we further improve our NHS in Scotland.
I heard Jackie Baillie talking about patient complaints and patient satisfaction. Let us look at some of the facts that are so often missing from Labour health debates. In 2011, 88 per cent of people said that they were very satisfied or fairly satisfied with their local health service, which was up from the level of 81 per cent that we inherited from the Labour-Liberal Democrat Administration.
Jackie Baillie also talked about the issues that have been highlighted by the inspection regime in our NHS. Who introduced the inspection regime in order to drive forward the improvements that we need in our NHS and ensure that we start to get the improvements that are necessary in various areas? That is the type of positive progress that we have been making. We are taking forward policies to ensure that we drive forward further improvements.
“We wouldn’t ring fence the health budget.”
We will take no lectures from a party that was not committed to protecting the NHS budget when we were prepared to do so. There is no hypocrisy on the SNP side of the chamber, but it is certainly present on the Labour side of the chamber.
I have no doubt that members across the chamber hear concerns about the NHS from their constituents. As a constituency MSP, I hear those concerns. I recognise that the NHS does not always get it right, but the Government is committed to ensuring that we further improve our NHS in Scotland.
I heard Jackie Baillie talking about patient complaints and patient satisfaction. Let us look at some of the facts that are so often missing from Labour health debates. In 2011, 88 per cent of people said that they were very satisfied or fairly satisfied with their local health service, which was up from the level of 81 per cent that we inherited from the Labour-Liberal Democrat Administration.
Jackie Baillie also talked about the issues that have been highlighted by the inspection regime in our NHS. Who introduced the inspection regime in order to drive forward the improvements that we need in our NHS and ensure that we start to get the improvements that are necessary in various areas? That is the type of positive progress that we have been making. We are taking forward policies to ensure that we drive forward further improvements.
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The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott)
Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-04161, in the name of Jackie Baillie, on patient care.I remind members who wish to speak in the debate to...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab)
Lab
There are undoubtedly real and pressing challenges in our national health service, which are starting to have a significant impact on patient care and patien...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)
SNP
Ms Baillie must recognise that there are more nurses and midwives now than there were in nine out of 10 years when Labour was in government. Is that a fact, ...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
I am afraid that that is nonsense. The Royal College of Nursing says that the number of nurses and midwives has reduced by 2,500. It is at a seven-year low. ...
Margo MacDonald (Lothian) (Ind)
Ind
Will the member give way?
Jackie Baillie
Lab
In a second.Another paramedic described being alone with a child with a head injury and being unable to transport him to hospital because they were waiting f...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
I am terribly sorry, but I cannot give way to Margo MacDonald, as I have very little time.The picture is extremely worrying. The NHS is struggling—there is n...
The Minister for Public Health (Michael Matheson)
SNP
It is often the case that facts do not feature heavily in Labour Party contributions in its health debates. No one should be in any doubt about the Governmen...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
I have made clear on a number of occasions our absolute view that the NHS budget should be protected. I am disappointed that the minister still fails to unde...
Michael Matheson
SNP
Unfortunately, Jackie Baillie’s problem is that her leader overruled her at the time that we are talking about. On “Newsnight Scotland”, Iain Gray said:“We w...
Margo MacDonald
Ind
I would like to get this right. Does the Government allege that it is spending £800 million or so more on the health service than was spent on the health ser...
Michael Matheson
SNP
I can tell Margo MacDonald that, as I said, by 2014-15, we will have a record £11.6 billion going into our NHS, which is the highest amount that the NHS has ...
Jackson Carlaw (West Scotland) (Con)
Con
We are not here to debate Wales; we are not here to debate the national health service in England; and we are not even here any longer—after six years—to deb...
Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP)
SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Jackson Carlaw
Con
I will at the end of my sentence, if I may.I do not believe for a moment that what they have been doing has been designed to undermine the NHS, but it smacks...
Jamie Hepburn
SNP
I am not sure that the end of the sentence was worth waiting for—
Jackson Carlaw
Con
In that case, I will move on without letting Mr Hepburn take the intervention any further.The challenge to the NHS is considerable. We know that a demographi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
We move to the open debate, with speeches of four minutes, please.16:16
Aileen McLeod (South Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I congratulate Alex Neil on his new role as Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing and wish him well in taking on the portfolio. I know that, whatever co...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Aileen McLeod
SNP
If I thought for one second that the Labour Party had anything positive or constructive to say in this debate, I would gladly take an intervention from Jacki...
Duncan McNeil (Greenock and Inverclyde) (Lab)
Lab
We have heard from colleagues who have touched on a number of areas where patient care has fallen below acceptable standards. In my brief speech, I will focu...
Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP)
SNP
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Jackie Baillie
Lab
I have been in the chamber time after time when the SNP has essentially hidden behind the NHS staff. It is NHS staff who are coming to me with stories about ...
Jamie Hepburn
SNP
It may be a surprise to Jackie Baillie, but we all have constituents who work in the NHS and we all hear issues of concern, which we rightly take forward. Le...
Margo MacDonald
Ind
Rather than going into the records, because we will never agree on that, could we try to find agreement on why there should be a shortfall on the wards? I sp...
Jamie Hepburn
SNP
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Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)
Lab
I will concentrate my remarks on the Scottish Ambulance Service and start by paying tribute to the excellent staff who operate our ambulances and our control...
Dave Thompson (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP)
SNP
Will the member give way?
Rhoda Grant
Lab
I will not take an intervention, because time is very short and I have many points to make.That is not the only issue that puts patients at risk; dropped shi...