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Meeting of the Parliament 26 September 2012

26 Sep 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Green Bus Fund
Beattie, Colin SNP Midlothian North and Musselburgh Watch on SPTV
Even for someone who is a climate change doubter, creating a cleaner and healthier environment for ourselves and our children must be a commendable goal. Likewise, we are all acutely aware of the fact that fossil fuels are not a long-term solution to our energy needs. The green bus fund is investing in public transport while delivering jobs for the green economy and lowering carbon emissions. The SNP has adopted an ambitious climate change target to reduce emissions by 42 per cent by 2020. That is not going to happen without investment in the industry, which is exactly what the green bus fund is achieving.

Low-carbon buses produce 30 per cent less greenhouse gas emissions than equivalent diesel buses do. Indeed, Lothian Buses confirms that the double-deck hybrids that it purchased using the fund are producing a 56.7 per cent improvement in fuel efficiency compared with the diesel vehicles that were previously used.

So far, the green bus fund has allowed for some 74 eco-friendly buses to be purchased by operators, and the third round of the fund will allow investment in a further 40. The third funding round of £3 million for the green bus fund was launched in August 2012.

The Government’s support is enabling further developments and improvements to technology at Alexander Dennis Ltd, which is a world-class company that manufactures these vehicles. The current hybrid buses show fuel and CO2 savings of around 60 per cent, but it is expected that the next generation of hybrid buses, which are scheduled to be introduced in 2013, will show fuel and CO2 savings much nearer to 70 per cent. That is good news for the bus operators, whose overheads are reduced, good news for the environment and good news for jobs and the economy. It is also good news for commuters. Most of us have stood at bus stops, breathing in the fumes from diesel buses. Those fumes will now be reduced and our health—and our children’s health—can only be improved. The good news for commuters also lies in the fact that new modern buses are being introduced to replace older, less comfortable and less efficient buses.

Road transport is one of the biggest producers of greenhouse gases and any initiatives that help to reduce its emissions must be a move in the right direction. The First Minister has stated that the green economy will be the “source of Scotland’s reindustrialisation” and it is clear to most that it is indeed being that. Some of the greatest opportunities are appearing as a result of developments in the green economy. Low-carbon and green jobs now number 77,700 in Scotland, which outstrips the motor trade and the telecommunications sector and challenges the leadership of the finance sector, which delivers 86,800 jobs. Scottish Enterprise has estimated that jobs in Scotland’s low-carbon sector could grow by 4 per cent per annum between now and 2020, which would mean that the number of people employed in that industry would rise to 130,000. All of that is good news for Scotland.

The green bus fund fits well with other green initiatives and forms part of the larger green investment package, which will invest £30 million in energy efficiency to tackle fuel poverty. Perhaps at this point I can make the case for my old favourite, geothermal power, to form part of the green mix. I have previously raised the opportunities that we have to significantly increase the use of geothermal energy. Across much of Scotland we have flooded mine workings, which are regarded as a threat. In fact, they represent an opportunity in our old industrial communities to develop alternative energy sources, using a tried and tested process that needs little in the way of development to deliver benefits to local communities. I know that the Scottish Government is looking into those possibilities.

The transition into a low-carbon economy is absolutely necessary, but it can be painful, even when it is adopted with enthusiasm. In that, Scotland is already leading the way. We may be a small nation, but we are ambitious. In the grand scheme of things we may be a tiny producer of CO2 and greenhouse gases—China, America and India, for example, dwarf us in production of polluting gases—but each and every one of us has a responsibility to work towards the low-carbon economy goal. To quote an old Scots saying, mony a mickle maks a muckle.

By taking the lead and tackling the challenge now, we are laying the foundation for Scotland as a competitive 21st century economy, which will be all the sounder and stronger for having taken hard decisions early and will gain the advantages of having done so while other nations catch up. The Scottish Government is to be congratulated on its progress and its commitment, as represented by the green bus fund.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-04247, in the name of Keith Brown, on the green bus fund. I invite members who wish to speak in the debat...
The Minister for Transport and Veteran Affairs (Keith Brown) SNP
The Government is committed, as its main purpose, to creating a more successful country, with opportunities for everybody to flourish through increasing sust...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
I recognise the benefits that the minister has outlined, but is there not a danger that the approach simply gives opportunities for the bigger bus companies ...
Keith Brown SNP
That is a fair concern, but the way in which the green bus fund has been distributed so far shows the benefit to small companies rather than the bigger ones ...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
I am sorry that the Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure, Investment and Cities is not here, as I wanted to welcome her formally to her new post. That pleasu...
Mark McDonald (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
In the spirit of honesty and hard choices that I know that Labour is espousing, will Elaine Murray therefore advise which budget she would reduce in order to...
Elaine Murray Lab
We rehearsed the EGIP issue last week and I said at the time that it was about Network Rail borrowing and not part of the capital budget. I will not make up ...
Elaine Murray Lab
It is true.I will move on to concessionary bus fares and again I will tell you about the fears of bus service operators. They are concerned because, last yea...
Keith Brown SNP
We have representatives from the Confederation of Passenger Transport in the gallery and the member should be aware that we are in discussion with it on that...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
You are in your final minute, Ms Murray.
Elaine Murray Lab
As I said, we are asking for an honest debate about how we fund what we see as desirable priorities. That is the whole issue, and you have consistently run a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Before I call Alex Johnstone, I ask Elaine Murray to move her amendment.
Elaine Murray Lab
I move amendment S4M-04247.2, to insert at end:“; notes the concerns expressed by bus service operators, passengers and trade unions regarding the Scottish G...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I also ask members to remember to speak through the chair, please.15:07
Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
When I first saw the motion I thought that the debate would be fairly anodyne. However, we have already seen that there are things to be said and I congratul...
Keith Brown SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Alex Johnstone Con
I am afraid that I am in my final minute, but I hope that that discussion will progress.It is the case that, in principle, everyone in the chamber supports i...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We come to the open debate.15:13
Colin Beattie (Midlothian North and Musselburgh) (SNP) SNP
Even for someone who is a climate change doubter, creating a cleaner and healthier environment for ourselves and our children must be a commendable goal. Lik...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I advise members that they have six minutes for their speeches, but there is a wee bit of time in hand if members wish to take interventions.15:19
Iain Gray (East Lothian) (Lab) Lab
The green bus fund is a welcome initiative. Of course, as Elaine Murray outlined, Labour initially called for it some years ago. Low-carbon buses, which the ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I must ask you to come to a conclusion, Mr Gray.
Iain Gray Lab
The truth is that low-emission buses are a good thing. However, if they are to serve more, not fewer, passengers, the time has come to go back to the kind of...
Marco Biagi (Edinburgh Central) (SNP) SNP
I am glad to get up and speak in the debate, even though I have just lost half my speech. As I am used to speaking in quite controversial and combative debat...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
As a non-driver and regular bus user, I am in the same position as Mr Biagi. Unfortunately, most of my bus journeys are in Aberdeen and, instead of the £1.40...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the green bus initiative. Any investment—no matter how big or small—in public transport is welcome. I also welcome the sentiments behind the invest...
Keith Brown SNP
It might repay the member to look at the figures. The amount for concessionary travel has substantially increased year on year and will increase again next y...
Neil Findlay Lab
I have looked at the figures, which decrease from £255 million in 2011-12 to £248 million, £242 million next year and £236 million in 2015.
Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP) SNP
If that is the case, will the member explain why his party leader said yesterday that, in the budget,“spending on concessionary fares increased by 19%”?
Neil Findlay Lab
I have taken my information from the Scottish Parliament information centre, so the member can argue with it.We should not forget that the investment in gree...