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Meeting of the Parliament 24 October 2012

24 Oct 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Winter Resilience
As the minister said, long-range weather forecasting is notoriously unreliable because weather patterns are influenced by many factors, including variations in sea currents. For example, the unusually southerly position of the jet stream earlier this year brought cold, wet weather to Scotland during a period in which we would usually hope to have at least a glimmer of sunshine, and the oscillations of El Niño and La Niña in the Pacific Ocean are creating unpredictable weather patterns across many parts of the globe. Indeed, we were told that this summer was due to be a barbecue summer to rival the summer of 2003, but I had only three barbecues this summer—which was still two more than the previous year—and for two of them we had to eat indoors.

Despite the unreliability of long-range weather forecasting, however, it is always better to be prepared, particularly in view of the predictions by Adrian Crocker of British Weather Services, who suggests that the coming winter will be colder than average and will follow a similar pattern to that of 2010. I hope that that prediction will be proved wrong, but we must be prepared.

We have to be ready when the weather does its worst. We experienced very cold winter weather conditions in 2009-10 and 2010-11 and, as the minister said, flooding events are becoming ever more common and more serious. We have also endured extreme high winds such as hurricane bawbag last year.

The two extreme winters prompted both the Scottish and United Kingdom Governments to assess whether resilience measures needed to be improved. The UK Government reviewed transport-related provision, including rail, while the Scottish winter review group took a wider perspective that included local authority services, pressures on the national health service and the business community, and the contribution of the voluntary sector.

Government—both local and national—plays an important role in planning for problematic weather events, but responsibility also rests with communities and individuals to be prepared for the worst. I have logged on to the ready Scotland website, which has a number of useful suggestions for individuals and businesses. I registered for the draw for a home emergency pack and trust that, if I win it, it will come signed by the minister. The website is a good initiative, but not everybody is computer savvy or even has access to information technology. Some of our citizens who are most vulnerable to inclement weather are unlikely to be able to access information by that medium, which is why a hotline for older people, for example, could be vital in times of emergency.

When severe weather strikes, the first challenge is to keep transport routes open. HGVs often present problems when there is snow and ice on roads with even quite shallow gradients. Indeed, the M74 in my constituency is prone to closure under icy conditions due to the problems that HGVs encounter.

Getting up-to-date information to travellers is vital to prevent continual build-up of stationary traffic. We know that there were major problems with information during the first day of severe weather in December 2010. Indeed, I had personal experience of that because my daughter was stuck on the M73 in heavy snow. I found it difficult to find out what was happening or to get any information to her. Since that time, improvements to the Traffic Scotland information service have been made and, as the minister said, improvements in the provision of information to mobile devices have helped with some of the issues, too.

Resilience involves keeping public services functioning when possible and keeping the public informed when that is not possible. For example, schools may be closed at short notice because it is not safe for pupils and teachers to travel to school or because low temperatures have caused heating systems to fail. However, last-minute school closures create difficulties for working parents—and their employees—especially those in occupations that come under greater pressure during severe weather, such as the NHS.

In addition to local authorities organising methods to ensure that parents get information quickly by using texts, for example, parents should be encouraged to make plans with relatives, friends, and other parents about how they will cope with a sudden school closure and about which of them may be able to take time off work perhaps to look after several children on a rota.

I also encourage workplaces to make arrangements to allow homeworking, where possible. That clearly assists people to cope with transport issues and sudden childcare problems.

Periods of prolonged low temperatures present problems for other services. During the 2010-11 Christmas and new year period, my constituency experienced less snowfall than other parts of the region but, because the ground was not insulated by heavy snow, there were a lot of problems with frozen pipes and tobies—in many cases, the latter had not been laid sufficiently far under the road surface—so many of my constituents ended up without water services for several days. There were situations in which, for example, one elderly gentleman took snow out of the garden to put in his kettle in order to have something to drink.

One problem was that Scottish Water’s call centre could not cope with the volume of calls that were coming in, and that needs to be looked at. I must say that Scottish Water’s senior management did a sterling job—they dealt with phone calls and texts right into the night during a public holiday. That was an excellent service so I have never criticised them for how they responded at that time.

People who are able to contribute to individual and community resilience should be encouraged to do so. During the previous severe winter, there was unfortunately a fair amount of disinformation around, such as the idea that, if someone cleared the snow on the footpath outside their home and somebody else then slipped and fell, the snow clearer might be held responsible and could be sued. That was a load of nonsense, but people need to be confident that if they make efforts to help themselves and their communities those efforts will not lead to unexpected prosecution.

More plentiful provision of community salt and grit bins increases community resilience so long as the contents are stored in such a way that they do not solidify. Access to the bins can be difficult, and sometimes when a person looks into the bins they can see that the salt is totally solid.

It appears that lessons have been learned from the two recent harsh winters and that additional equipment has been purchased. I saw in the Daily Mail a nice little picture showing the minister wearing a rather natty set of gloves and scarf and holding an umbrella. However, my concerns about that page are not about the sartorial elegance of the minister but about the article next to his picture.

The article indicates that, due to financial pressures, a number of local authorities are looking to cut their winter resilience programmes. The Scottish Borders Council is reportedly hoping to save £170,000 by reducing the gritting priority for 100 miles of its road network. Last year, the Western Isles Council reduced the time interval during which gritting takes place by four hours a day. Six of our councils are cutting their gritting programme and three have reduced their salt reserves, although in some cases that is because councils believe that they can access additional salt more quickly if that is required.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-04518, in the name of Keith Brown, on winter resilience.14:42
The Minister for Transport and Veteran Affairs (Keith Brown) SNP
Presiding Officer, thank you for the opportunity to update members on how Scotland is becoming more resilient, year on year, in the face of severe weather, a...
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green) Green
Will the minister give way?
Keith Brown SNP
I give way to Alison Johnstone.
Alison Johnstone Green
Speaking about new technologies—
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
Could we have Alison Johnstone’s microphone on please? Please put your card in, Ms Johnstone.
Alison Johnstone Green
Speaking about new technologies, the minister may be aware that the Dutch are about to test heated cycle paths that will use heat that has been gathered duri...
Keith Brown SNP
I made the point at the start of my speech that we want to keep Scotland moving. To the extent that they will help keep Scotland moving, I am more than willi...
Margo MacDonald (Lothian) (Ind) Ind
I thank the minister for giving way near the end of his speech. I was waiting for what I thought would be the crescendo. What is the Government going to do a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Minister, you must conclude, please.
Keith Brown SNP
I think that Margo MacDonald has stolen Alex Johnstone’s thunder. We have procedures in place to deal with potholes. My responsibility is for trunk roads, an...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
As the minister said, long-range weather forecasting is notoriously unreliable because weather patterns are influenced by many factors, including variations ...
Keith Brown SNP
It is worth looking behind some of the figures that Elaine Murray cited. Last year, many local authorities had very high levels of salt but did not use it be...
Elaine Murray Lab
I thank the minister for that clarification of the issues in the article. However, councils are implementing cuts not because they do not take winter resilie...
Mark McDonald (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
It is my recollection from my time as a local councillor that the funding for repairs to the road network to deal with potholes, for example, came from counc...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
You are in your final minute, Dr Murray.
Elaine Murray Lab
Capital budgets are under huge pressure as well—it is not just revenue budgets that are under pressure. I did not mention revenue budgets specifically and, w...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
You must close now, Dr Murray.
Elaine Murray Lab
That information needs to be put in the public domain in advance of any prolonged period of severe winter weather.I move amendment S4M-04518.1, to insert at ...
Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I welcome the debate and thank the minister for bringing forward—for the second time, I believe, after last year’s debate—a debate on winter resilience at th...
Mark McDonald SNP
Does the member agree that another issue that arises is when the road is dug up—by a utility company, for example—and then not properly filled in or patched ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Mr Johnstone, you are going into your last minute.
Alex Johnstone Con
Absolutely, I would not dispute that what the member describes is an issue.I will have to move quickly to ensure that I cover some of the other points that I...
Jim Hume (South Scotland) (LD) LD
The last days of October are fast becoming characterised not by gaining an extra hour, or by Hallowe’en, but by the annual winter resilience debate in the ch...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We turn to the open debate. At this stage of the debate, we are tight for time and it is unlikely that I will be able to call all members to speak. Speeches ...
Chic Brodie (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I, too, welcome the debate and acknowledge the considerable work that the Minister for Transport and Veteran Affairs, his officials, the services and the Red...
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I highlight the recent Citizens Advice Scotland energy briefing, which says that the Scottish Government and local authorities might be able to help with rur...
Chic Brodie SNP
That point is well made and noted.The resilience programme should be packaged under the two themes of communication and equipment availability. It is good ne...
Margo MacDonald Ind
Will the member give way?
Chic Brodie SNP
No, I must finish.We do not just have to deal with domestic issues. It is critical that airports and cross-border rail links continue to operate effectively....