Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 14 June 2012
14 Jun 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Youth Employment
I welcome this debate on youth employment. I was a lecturer for 20 years before I became an MSP, so I am fully aware of the enormous benefit of training and education to people of all ages. I was hoping for a more constructive debate—but there is still time.
In the debate in February I welcomed the appointment of a dedicated Minister for Youth Employment and the fact that the Parliament would get regular updates on the issue. I also welcomed the social enterprise fund, raised issues to do with literacy levels in schools, expressed concern about the £33 million cut in further education funding, and highlighted the employment levels and rate of positive destinations, including further study, for Scottish graduates, which are much better than the UK average.
The response from the Minister for Youth Employment was:
“I will not take any lectures from the Conservatives on youth or adult unemployment.”—[Official Report, 9 February 2012; c 6365.]
There was no analysis of any of the content of my speech and no response to any issue in my speech. I trust and hope that today either the minister or Mike Russell will, when summing up this hugely important debate, respond to the contributions of MSPs across the chamber rather than making dismissive statements.
Sir Tom Hunter gave an inspirational speech at the business in the Parliament conference last week. He reminded us that the business birth rate in Scotland is exactly the same as it was in 2003. Given that the Government’s motion refers to
“supporting young people into work in small and medium-sized businesses”,
I hope that it will enhance dialogue with small businesses to give them the opportunity to get more apprentices and to support them in growing their businesses. Of course, it is not just the quantity of apprenticeships that counts, because the quality of the training and the ability to transfer skills also help to keep young people in the job market.
I noticed that the education secretary was at the business in the Parliament conference and nodded positively when Sir Tom Hunter emphasised the need for the education system to be more closely aligned to the world of work. We fully support that, given the points that the minister has made.
In the debate in February I welcomed the appointment of a dedicated Minister for Youth Employment and the fact that the Parliament would get regular updates on the issue. I also welcomed the social enterprise fund, raised issues to do with literacy levels in schools, expressed concern about the £33 million cut in further education funding, and highlighted the employment levels and rate of positive destinations, including further study, for Scottish graduates, which are much better than the UK average.
The response from the Minister for Youth Employment was:
“I will not take any lectures from the Conservatives on youth or adult unemployment.”—[Official Report, 9 February 2012; c 6365.]
There was no analysis of any of the content of my speech and no response to any issue in my speech. I trust and hope that today either the minister or Mike Russell will, when summing up this hugely important debate, respond to the contributions of MSPs across the chamber rather than making dismissive statements.
Sir Tom Hunter gave an inspirational speech at the business in the Parliament conference last week. He reminded us that the business birth rate in Scotland is exactly the same as it was in 2003. Given that the Government’s motion refers to
“supporting young people into work in small and medium-sized businesses”,
I hope that it will enhance dialogue with small businesses to give them the opportunity to get more apprentices and to support them in growing their businesses. Of course, it is not just the quantity of apprenticeships that counts, because the quality of the training and the ability to transfer skills also help to keep young people in the job market.
I noticed that the education secretary was at the business in the Parliament conference and nodded positively when Sir Tom Hunter emphasised the need for the education system to be more closely aligned to the world of work. We fully support that, given the points that the minister has made.
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Lab
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The Minister for Youth Employment (Angela Constance)
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Ken Macintosh (Eastwood) (Lab)
Lab
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Angela Constance
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Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab)
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Angela Constance
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The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott)
Con
Interventions from a sedentary position are not welcome.
Angela Constance
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Kezia Dugdale (Lothian) (Lab)
Lab
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Joe FitzPatrick (Dundee City West) (SNP)
SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
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Lab
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Kezia Dugdale
Lab
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Joe FitzPatrick
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Kezia Dugdale
Lab
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Kenneth Gibson (Cunninghame North) (SNP)
SNP
Will the member take an intervention on that point?
Kezia Dugdale
Lab
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Angela Constance
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Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
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Michael Russell
SNP
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Mary Scanlon
Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
You must close now, please.
Mary Scanlon
Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
We are extremely tight for time, so speeches of six minutes or less, including interventions, will be welcome.15:40
Paul Wheelhouse (South Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
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Kezia Dugdale
Lab
Will the member give way?
Paul Wheelhouse
SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
Forgive me, but the member is in his last minute.
Paul Wheelhouse
SNP
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