Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 14 June 2012
14 Jun 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
PIP Silicone Breast Implants
When I first heard about the PIP silicone scandal, I was shocked. I still cannot comprehend the feelings of anguish and worry that must have been—and still are—going through the affected women’s minds. They would have been asking themselves whether they had received faulty PIP implants, and, if so, whether the implants would rupture, when they would rupture and whether they would cause lasting damage to their health; they would have been asking when their implants could safely be removed.
The conflicting views of the French and UK Governments, as well the inaction of the Scottish Government, have not helped those women. A public inquiry is long overdue. It is vital that any public inquiry is conducted by an independent member of the judiciary, as happened with the Penrose inquiry and the inquiry into C diff at the Vale of Leven hospital. So far, official investigations into the PIP scandal have been concerned only with maintaining public confidence in the Government.
Labour’s seven-point plan, which was introduced this morning by my colleague, Jackie Baillie, is the best and only way to help PIP victims and to avoid this happening again. The Scottish Government argues that the matter is reserved and therefore that it cannot hold a public inquiry. However, the Government has a duty of care to the Scottish people and it has a primary responsibility for the nation’s public health issues.
Earl Howe’s report does not adequately answer all the questions that are posed by campaigners. They deserve answers. Critical questions remain, such as the extent of the scandal in Scotland and what can be done to avoid something like this happening in the future. That is why Earl Howe’s report cannot be a substitute for a public inquiry. Statistical evidence needs to be gathered to discover the extent of the scandal in Scotland. A public inquiry would help to determine a minimum standard of care that private health clinics must provide to operate in Scotland. It would also determine whether more could and should have been done by the Scottish Government and Scottish health service in this matter, irrespective of the restrictions imposed on the Scottish Government. It would give clear and unequivocal regulations, going forward.
I agree with the view that a thorough public inquiry could determine the practicality of forming a Scottish procurement body for all medical products that are brought into Scotland. As many of my colleagues will highlight today, such a body would consider clinical issues specifically for Scotland.
As the amount of reconstructive and cosmetic surgery continues to rise in Scotland, with thousands of procedures conducted, it is imperative that we introduce uniform regulation of private health providers and that they are held to the highest of standards.
The Cabinet Secretary for Health, Wellbeing and Cities Strategy must put herself into the shoes of the 4,000 women in Scotland who received faulty implants, including Jenny Brown and Emma Hardie, who are in the public gallery today. Their health has been put at risk and they are still suffering today. That group of women are asking why this happened in the first place and what their Government is doing to ensure that it does not happen again.
The Scottish Government has a duty of care for the health and wellbeing of the people of Scotland. Currently it is letting down those 4,000 women. There is a dire need for an independent, transparent and comprehensive public inquiry so that the best justice is given to one and all.
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The conflicting views of the French and UK Governments, as well the inaction of the Scottish Government, have not helped those women. A public inquiry is long overdue. It is vital that any public inquiry is conducted by an independent member of the judiciary, as happened with the Penrose inquiry and the inquiry into C diff at the Vale of Leven hospital. So far, official investigations into the PIP scandal have been concerned only with maintaining public confidence in the Government.
Labour’s seven-point plan, which was introduced this morning by my colleague, Jackie Baillie, is the best and only way to help PIP victims and to avoid this happening again. The Scottish Government argues that the matter is reserved and therefore that it cannot hold a public inquiry. However, the Government has a duty of care to the Scottish people and it has a primary responsibility for the nation’s public health issues.
Earl Howe’s report does not adequately answer all the questions that are posed by campaigners. They deserve answers. Critical questions remain, such as the extent of the scandal in Scotland and what can be done to avoid something like this happening in the future. That is why Earl Howe’s report cannot be a substitute for a public inquiry. Statistical evidence needs to be gathered to discover the extent of the scandal in Scotland. A public inquiry would help to determine a minimum standard of care that private health clinics must provide to operate in Scotland. It would also determine whether more could and should have been done by the Scottish Government and Scottish health service in this matter, irrespective of the restrictions imposed on the Scottish Government. It would give clear and unequivocal regulations, going forward.
I agree with the view that a thorough public inquiry could determine the practicality of forming a Scottish procurement body for all medical products that are brought into Scotland. As many of my colleagues will highlight today, such a body would consider clinical issues specifically for Scotland.
As the amount of reconstructive and cosmetic surgery continues to rise in Scotland, with thousands of procedures conducted, it is imperative that we introduce uniform regulation of private health providers and that they are held to the highest of standards.
The Cabinet Secretary for Health, Wellbeing and Cities Strategy must put herself into the shoes of the 4,000 women in Scotland who received faulty implants, including Jenny Brown and Emma Hardie, who are in the public gallery today. Their health has been put at risk and they are still suffering today. That group of women are asking why this happened in the first place and what their Government is doing to ensure that it does not happen again.
The Scottish Government has a duty of care for the health and wellbeing of the people of Scotland. Currently it is letting down those 4,000 women. There is a dire need for an independent, transparent and comprehensive public inquiry so that the best justice is given to one and all.
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In the same item of business
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott)
Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-03294, in the name of Jackie Baillie, on women’s health.10:27
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab)
Lab
I welcome the opportunity to debate the PIP breast implant scandal.I welcome some of the women who have been caught up in the scandal, who are here today cam...
The Minister for Public Health (Michael Matheson)
SNP
I welcome the opportunity to have the debate. I also welcome those from the Scottish campaign group who have joined us for the debate. They have been at the ...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)
Lab
One of our concerns is that the second Bruce Keogh review—not the toxicology review—is on cosmetic procedures only. There are many other procedures, such as ...
Michael Matheson
SNP
The review is dealing specifically with the issues that arise from the PIP implant matter, and we should give the review group the opportunity to consider th...
Nanette Milne (North East Scotland) (Con)
Con
I thank Jackie Baillie for bringing forward the debate, because although we do not agree with her conclusions on the issue we think that it is important that...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
In recognising the scale of the problem, does the member support a public inquiry being held at UK level?
Nanette Milne
Con
I will give the member my reasons for not doing so later.We must remember that silicone implants carry an inherent risk to an individual’s health. No such im...
Fiona McLeod (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP)
SNP
We are in a serious and worrying situation, so I am glad that we are having this debate. We should take the opportunity to reassure the many women out there ...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
I was quoting the cabinet secretary, who has consistently said that we would perhaps be safer using the upper limit, which is 4,000 women.
Fiona McLeod
SNP
Thank you, Ms Baillie. I confess that I was not at the Health and Sport Committee meeting that day—I was in hospital getting my gallbladder removed. However,...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith)
Lab
Come to a conclusion, please.
Fiona McLeod
SNP
I contend that the EU and the UK have swung too far towards self-regulation and self-policing. Given that Scotland has no voice in Europe and only a small vo...
Mary Fee (West Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
When I first heard about the PIP silicone scandal, I was shocked. I still cannot comprehend the feelings of anguish and worry that must have been—and still a...
Margaret Burgess (Cunninghame South) (SNP)
SNP
I can only imagine the stress and anxiety that are felt by women who have PIP breast implants. For some time, they have lived with that worry day and daily. ...
Dennis Robertson (Aberdeenshire West) (SNP)
SNP
I, too, welcome members of the campaign to the chamber. However, although I have a great deal of sympathy for their situation, I am not sure that a public in...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
I did not invent the 4,000 figure; it actually came from the member’s own Cabinet Secretary for Health, Wellbeing and Cities Strategy. Nevertheless, the poin...
Dennis Robertson
SNP
As I said, the 4,000 figure came from the UK Government and relates to the purchase of implants. The cabinet secretary was quite right to highlight the upper...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab)
Lab
I first became very concerned about the issue a few weeks ago when a constituent came to one of my surgeries and showed me photographs of two breast implants...
Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP)
SNP
There has been much debate about exactly how many women in Scotland, the UK and across Europe might be affected. Those numbers remain unclear, but we can be ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
We turn to the closing speeches. I call Nanette Milne. You have up to five minutes.11:17
Nanette Milne
Con
This has been a worthwhile, interesting and considered debate with good speeches from members in all parts of the chamber. As I said previously, it is import...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
This is not about apportioning blame, but about learning lessons of responsibility for the after-care of the women so that the same mistakes do not happen in...
Nanette Milne
Con
I appreciate that, but I still think that the on-going work and its conclusions will satisfy.It is certainly true that we can continue to improve regulation ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
I call Michael Matheson. I can give you around seven minutes, minister.11:22
Michael Matheson
SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer.It has been a useful debate. I think that, on reflection, most members would recognise that this is an issue that goes beyond pa...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
Will the minister take an intervention?
Michael Matheson
SNP
I am very short of time and I want to cover as many points as I can.A number of members mentioned the introduction of a register. Some members may be aware t...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)
Lab
As all members have acknowledged, this has been a useful debate, but some questions remain unanswered.Why should there be an inquiry? Why should we not just ...