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Meeting of the Parliament 29 March 2012

29 Mar 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Local Energy Companies
Scanlon, Mary Con Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV
I, too, thank the Scottish Green Party for bringing the debate to the Parliament. I agree with most of Patrick Harvie’s motion—I am sure that he can guess the two or three lines with which I disagree.

There is no doubt that much can be gained from local energy companies and that the topic merits further discussion and consideration. We can learn from experience, as highlighted by Kevin Stewart. I will highlight a good experience and a bad experience. I find quite exciting the enhanced support that is now in place for local energy companies that the Government’s amendment highlights. I noted the minister’s comments about local authority energy companies.

As well as the private, public and third sectors, co-operatives and communities can work together to produce clean energy. I will give two examples: the Isle of Eigg, which is a blueprint for success, and the Caithness Heat and Power project, which is run by Highland Council but which cannot be deemed a success in any form.

Highland Council proposed to tackle fuel poverty in Wick by forming a new limited company—Caithness Heat and Power—to establish a woodchip scheme to provide electricity and cheaper heating for tenants. Those aims were worthy. The scheme started in Pulteneytown in 2004 to provide a renewable heating system for up to 500 houses.

There is no doubting the good intentions behind the project. However, after several years, many problems and an Accounts Commission investigation, it was found that there was a lack of appropriate risk management, and that Highland Council had faced many other problems, from the project’s inception in 2002 through to its delivery.

Caithness Heat and Power was abandoned in 2008. At the time, it was said that

“the technology originally chosen for the project is not capable of reliably and economically fulfilling its objectives.”

Although the project cost £14.65 million, the company was transferred in December of last year for £1. Caithness Heat and Power experienced technological and financial problems, with Highland Council having to pay back a £2.9 million grant and also having to pay to reconvert the 247 properties that had been modified at a cost of £2.3 million. Highland Council tried to recoup money from the £14.65 million project by selling off 14 lots online last year, including a boiler and a woodchip drier.

The council is still pursing £152,000 of outstanding electricity bills, but the system’s design prevents effective disconnection of individual customers without affecting others. A local councillor stated last week in the John O’Groat Journal that the £152,000

“was not run up as result of people in fuel poverty struggling to pay their bills but by opportunists taking advantage of a flawed setup.”

I highlight the project because, as others have said, we have to learn from experience.

The community on the Isle of Eigg had the opposite experience and its scheme is undoubtedly an outstanding success. Diesel generators provided electricity to the community for decades, but Eigg Electric can now provide 24-hour power through three hydroelectric generators that produce energy from water as well as four small wind turbines and solar panels.

An essential consideration of the design and development of the project was that it should not impact on the natural beauty of the island. The cable routes, both grid and domestic, are buried—unlike the Beauly to Denny power line.

The total generation capacity of the system is about 164kW at any time. The system is designed to provide 95 per cent of the power consumed on the island and it allows for population growth. Residents of Eigg can use only what they produce and, to ensure that no one goes short, each house has a maximum use limit of 5kW and each business a maximum use limit of 10kW at any one time. People spread their use throughout the day, the system is simple and meters are used to display electricity usage at all times, with surplus power distributed to community halls.

Eigg is an excellent example of full support being given, altruism and partnership in the community as everybody pulls together for the common good.

I will cover the other points when I sum up.

10:53

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-02523, in the name of Patrick Harvie, on local energy companies. 10:25
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
When the Greens bring motions to the chamber for debate, we usually take what we laughingly call a soft-and-spiky approach. We lodge one consensual and const...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
The Aberdeen combined heat and power scheme has got it right in my opinion. In part, the expansion in recent times has been down to the £1 million grant that...
Patrick Harvie Green
That gets to one of the central issues. There should not be insistence, but there should be strong and compelling leadership at local and central Government ...
The Minister for Energy, Enterprise and Tourism (Fergus Ewing) SNP
I am delighted to accept the invitation in the wording of the motion to reaffirm Scotland’s commitment to its ambitious, world-leading climate change targets...
Patrick Harvie Green
I am glad that the minister mentions the 500MW target. It includes local ownership, and not just community ownership. My motion is about community and public...
Fergus Ewing SNP
We clearly and explicitly want to encourage communities to own renewables schemes. There is no dubiety about that so far as I am aware. That is the best mode...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I do not play down any of the problems and complexities that the minister has outlined. However, community development trusts have got into the market in rec...
Fergus Ewing SNP
Those are suppliers of capacity, not retailers of electricity—there is a difference.We are happy to look carefully at the emerging possibilities. The current...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I very much welcome the debate on local energy companies and hope that it will stimulate action. We will not all agree on everything, but I suspect that ther...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will Ms Boyack give way?
Sarah Boyack Lab
No—I have only one minute left.I welcome the minister’s support for our amendment. We believe that it is crucial that the Government comes back to Parliament...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Mary Scanlon, who has a strict five minutes.10:48
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I, too, thank the Scottish Green Party for bringing the debate to the Parliament. I agree with most of Patrick Harvie’s motion—I am sure that he can guess th...
Mike MacKenzie (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
A few years ago, I was lucky enough to be invited to a community conference on the island of Gigha, just after the people there had switched on their three w...
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Mike MacKenzie SNP
No, I have only four minutes.Little Scotland can, by becoming the world’s laboratory, make an unparalleled contribution to mankind in solving the problem of ...
Patrick Harvie Green
Will the member give way?
Mike MacKenzie SNP
No, I am sorry—I have only two minutes.Business excels at investing in new technology, and if we are to fulfil those targets and achieve all the benefits tha...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I hope and believe that the Parliament will reaffirm Scotland’s ambitious targets on climate change and renewable energy, and I am happy to continue to commi...
Mike MacKenzie SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Mark Griffin Lab
I am sorry, but I am tight for time.It is right that we should push for the creation of public energy companies that are publicly owned and publicly controll...
Dennis Robertson (Aberdeenshire West) (SNP) SNP
The city of Aberdeen is recognised as the oil and gas capital of Europe, and my constituency of Aberdeenshire West hopes to become the renewables capital. Th...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I, too, congratulate the less spiky, new-style Patrick Harvie on bringing the debate to the chamber, and confirm that his motion and Sarah Boyack’s amendment...
Mike MacKenzie SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Liam McArthur LD
I am sorry, but I do not have enough time.Patrick Harvie is right: we need to do more to demonstrate how the renewables agenda can and will serve the common ...
Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP) SNP
I, too, thank Patrick Harvie for bringing the issue of local energy companies to the chamber for an important debate.We should remind ourselves of the Govern...
John Park (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I disagree with Patrick Harvie; he has not been confrontational this morning—I am sure that members who remember debates on similar subjects in the previous ...
Mary Scanlon Con
In my opening speech, I highlighted good and bad experience. Caithness Heat and Power could have benefited from the advice that is now available from Highlan...
Mike MacKenzie SNP
Will the member give way?