Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 17 May 2012
17 May 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Physical Activity
Mr Yousaf challenged me on which of us was younger and I won through on that, so I can say with some confidence that I am the youngest member in the chamber.
When I was at secondary school, my classmates and I got two periods of PE every week. Those two periods were certainly beneficial to me, although I never needed much encouragement to take off my shirt and tie and get my shorts and T-shirt on—I promise members that I do not have a change of clothes with me, so they need not worry. That meant that although my time at secondary school predated the Government’s targets, if those targets had been in place at the time, they would have been met and my classmates and I would have contributed to another positive statistic for the Government.
However, we must look at the education that is delivered in such lessons. When I was at school, the two classes in my year were merged and then split up into a boys group and a girls group. Roughly 25 boys would be getting ready for PE in the changing room when the PE teacher would announce his entrance by shouting, in his deep, booming voice, “Right boys—football!” There would be a cheer from most of us and then—rain, hail or shine—we would be sent out on to the ash football pitch for a 40-minute grudge match between the two registration classes. From first year to fourth year, I was involved in twice-weekly football matches between the C class and the D class. There was little else by way of PE in between.
As I said, that was beneficial for me. I loved playing football and I still do. As members can imagine, in a west of Scotland school, most of the guys in my class enjoyed it, too. I cannot speak in a debate about sport without mentioning the fact that one of those guys was Darren Barr, who I imagine will feature for Hearts in the Scottish cup final at the weekend.
However, not everyone enjoyed football. The same core of five to 10 pupils would forget their kit or have sprained ankles or sore heads, or they would just mill about the pitch to avoid a confrontation with the teacher. Those five to 10 boys would never have got into the culture of regular activity through their two periods of PE, as the extent of their physical activity was the short jog from the changing room up to the football pitch. Despite that, they would still have been classed as having their two periods of PE every week, in line with Government targets.
I am glad to say that things have changed at my old school. After I left it, the previous Scottish Executive made St Maurice’s high school a sports comprehensive, along with two other schools in North Lanarkshire. That was done to advance the principle of raising achievement for all, which involved recognising that education was not just about academic success and, similarly, that sporting and physical activity was not just about football.
Fitness motivators were piloted to introduce in the PE curriculum classes such as body jam, cheerleading and dance classes. The intention was mainly to encourage girls to participate, but boys took part, too. The provision of those classes marked a shift away from the regular netball PE lessons, which seemed to disenfranchise more girls than football did with boys. North Lanarkshire Leisure now provides free access to the gyms and swimming pools in the area for S5 and S6 pupils during exam time to help continue the culture of regular physical activity beyond S4.
Active schools co-ordinators are driving up participation and performance levels in schools. At the recent St Maurice’s high school awards, the regional and national successes of girls basketball, netball and football teams were amazing to see. Their performance was at a much higher level than that of the equivalent boys teams. I spoke to some of the recipients of awards, who told me that they were planning on moving on to university and that they would join university sports clubs and teams because of the positive experience that they had had at school.
What has happened in North Lanarkshire and at St Maurice’s, in particular, is a shining example of how to engage pupils in sport and physical activity by providing the time for high-quality PE teaching that covers a wide range of sports and activities, and which caters for all abilities.
One of the getting it right for every child principles is that children should have
“opportunities to take part in activities such as play, recreation and sport which contribute to healthy growth and development”.
We should ensure that we have a new generation of young Scots for whom a culture of irregular or no physical activity is alien, because they have been engaged in high-quality physical activity that suited them and which they enjoyed.
When I was at secondary school, my classmates and I got two periods of PE every week. Those two periods were certainly beneficial to me, although I never needed much encouragement to take off my shirt and tie and get my shorts and T-shirt on—I promise members that I do not have a change of clothes with me, so they need not worry. That meant that although my time at secondary school predated the Government’s targets, if those targets had been in place at the time, they would have been met and my classmates and I would have contributed to another positive statistic for the Government.
However, we must look at the education that is delivered in such lessons. When I was at school, the two classes in my year were merged and then split up into a boys group and a girls group. Roughly 25 boys would be getting ready for PE in the changing room when the PE teacher would announce his entrance by shouting, in his deep, booming voice, “Right boys—football!” There would be a cheer from most of us and then—rain, hail or shine—we would be sent out on to the ash football pitch for a 40-minute grudge match between the two registration classes. From first year to fourth year, I was involved in twice-weekly football matches between the C class and the D class. There was little else by way of PE in between.
As I said, that was beneficial for me. I loved playing football and I still do. As members can imagine, in a west of Scotland school, most of the guys in my class enjoyed it, too. I cannot speak in a debate about sport without mentioning the fact that one of those guys was Darren Barr, who I imagine will feature for Hearts in the Scottish cup final at the weekend.
However, not everyone enjoyed football. The same core of five to 10 pupils would forget their kit or have sprained ankles or sore heads, or they would just mill about the pitch to avoid a confrontation with the teacher. Those five to 10 boys would never have got into the culture of regular activity through their two periods of PE, as the extent of their physical activity was the short jog from the changing room up to the football pitch. Despite that, they would still have been classed as having their two periods of PE every week, in line with Government targets.
I am glad to say that things have changed at my old school. After I left it, the previous Scottish Executive made St Maurice’s high school a sports comprehensive, along with two other schools in North Lanarkshire. That was done to advance the principle of raising achievement for all, which involved recognising that education was not just about academic success and, similarly, that sporting and physical activity was not just about football.
Fitness motivators were piloted to introduce in the PE curriculum classes such as body jam, cheerleading and dance classes. The intention was mainly to encourage girls to participate, but boys took part, too. The provision of those classes marked a shift away from the regular netball PE lessons, which seemed to disenfranchise more girls than football did with boys. North Lanarkshire Leisure now provides free access to the gyms and swimming pools in the area for S5 and S6 pupils during exam time to help continue the culture of regular physical activity beyond S4.
Active schools co-ordinators are driving up participation and performance levels in schools. At the recent St Maurice’s high school awards, the regional and national successes of girls basketball, netball and football teams were amazing to see. Their performance was at a much higher level than that of the equivalent boys teams. I spoke to some of the recipients of awards, who told me that they were planning on moving on to university and that they would join university sports clubs and teams because of the positive experience that they had had at school.
What has happened in North Lanarkshire and at St Maurice’s, in particular, is a shining example of how to engage pupils in sport and physical activity by providing the time for high-quality PE teaching that covers a wide range of sports and activities, and which caters for all abilities.
One of the getting it right for every child principles is that children should have
“opportunities to take part in activities such as play, recreation and sport which contribute to healthy growth and development”.
We should ensure that we have a new generation of young Scots for whom a culture of irregular or no physical activity is alien, because they have been engaged in high-quality physical activity that suited them and which they enjoyed.
In the same item of business
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith)
Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-02904, in the name of Shona Robison, on meeting the challenge—physical activity and its contribution to t...
The Minister for Commonwealth Games and Sport (Shona Robison)
SNP
I am pleased to open the debate by exploring the significant challenge that obesity presents to Scotland and the Scottish people. I will also set out how phy...
Patricia Ferguson (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (Lab)
Lab
No matter what age each of us is, I am sure that, if we individually thought back to our own childhood, we would agree that our lives are significantly diffe...
Mark McDonald (North East Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
A number of authorities in Scotland have taken policy decisions to refuse hot food licences within a certain distance of school establishments. Does Patricia...
Patricia Ferguson
Lab
I certainly think so. However, we must also ensure that the food that is offered in schools is appetising enough to encourage young people to stay and eat it...
Shona Robison
SNP
Will the member give way?
Patricia Ferguson
Lab
Unfortunately, I am in my last minute. I am sure that the minister will take the chance to respond later.We accept that PE is not the only factor in creating...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
I call Nanette Milne. You have six minutes, but there is time if you feel inclined to take interventions.15:19
Nanette Milne (North East Scotland) (Con)
Con
No one can doubt the need for action to address the increasing problem of obesity in this country, whose health consequences are well known and cannot be ove...
Hanzala Malik (Glasgow) (Lab)
Lab
I am a bit of an expert on the subject, in which I have practical experience. One issue in relation to obesity is that proper care is not provided at the ver...
Nanette Milne
Con
I am coming to that matter. I agree absolutely with the member. I, too, was an overfed young baby. As I get older, I struggle to keep my weight in the right ...
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green)
Green
I really welcome this debate. It is essential that we understand the challenges that obesity currently poses to our national health and the devastating impac...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
I ask you to come to a conclusion, please.
Alison Johnstone
Green
I thank the minister for her intention to support my amendment. I move amendment S4M-02904.1, to insert after the first “active”:”; considers physical activi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
We come to the open debate. Speeches should be of six minutes.15:33
Nigel Don (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP)
SNP
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Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab)
Lab
Does Mr Don accept that, in itself, simply having more people walking in their community—rather than feeling that they have to go somewhere else, because the...
Nigel Don
SNP
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Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
Obesity is a major problem in Scotland. We have one of the highest rates of obesity—only the United States of America and Mexico have higher levels. The late...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
I must ask the member to conclude.
Margaret McDougall
Lab
We need to become more effective at preventing obesity rather than just dealing with the consequences later. The clock is ticking, and we need to get that ri...
Gil Paterson (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP)
SNP
Obesity is a highly complex matter and a difficult subject to tackle, due to the number of factors that are involved. If we had a simple cause, we would have...
Mark McDonald (North East Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I thoroughly enjoyed Alison Johnstone’s speech and I am happy that we will back her amendment at decision time. She speaks with great authority on the issue....
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
I welcome the opportunity to contribute to this debate on a pressing issue. We have heard from various speakers that Scottish people who are obese experience...
Gil Paterson
SNP
What makes you think that?
Mark Griffin
Lab
Mr Yousaf challenged me on which of us was younger and I won through on that, so I can say with some confidence that I am the youngest member in the chamber....
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott)
Con
You must close now, please.
Mark Griffin
Lab
However, we will not achieve that if we continue to count throwing 25 boys out on to a football pitch for two periods a week as a success. I look forward to ...
Margaret Burgess (Cunninghame South) (SNP)
SNP
I, too, welcome the opportunity to speak in this debate on tackling obesity in Scotland. We must remember that obesity is not confined to Scotland and is a g...
Dennis Robertson (Aberdeenshire West) (SNP)
SNP
I am guilty as charged, Presiding Officer. I stand before you as a person who knows that he is overweight and does not take enough exercise, but who is perha...