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Meeting of the Parliament 13 June 2012

13 Jun 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Victims and Witnesses (Improving Services)
Macdonald, Lewis Lab North East Scotland Watch on SPTV
Christine Grahame’s apology is, of course, acknowledged and accepted. I thank her for that helpful intervention, which I am sure will not cost me too much speaking time.

We believe that measures of that kind can and should be taken and that we can build on the proposals already included in the consultation document. For example, it is laudable that the consultation document talks about calling on public bodies to

“set clear standards of service for victims and witnesses.”

That is good, but it will be effective only if mechanisms are put in place to ensure that it happens. That is why Labour proposed that there should be a victims commissioner and a charter of victims’ rights, which were among the few proposals from our manifesto not included in the consultation document.

Our approach is to make the protection of victims the responsibility of an independent champion. Unlike other parts of the criminal justice system, their entire focus would be on the rights of victims. We believe that that is the right approach.

If ministers will not take our word for it, perhaps they will listen to Peter Morris, whose sister Claire was murdered by her husband, Malcolm Webster, in Aberdeenshire in 1994. Mr Morris has won broad support for his campaign to improve victims’ rights, most famously getting the name of Claire’s killer removed from her tombstone in an Aberdeenshire cemetery.

Mr Morris believes there should be a single point of contact for victims and their families from the time a crime is committed to the end of the court proceedings, and I believe that a victims commissioner would meet that requirement. Mr Morris also has strong views about compensation of victims. A victim surcharge to pay towards the cost of supporting victims is a good idea, mirroring as it does Labour’s proposals for a victims fund. However, to make it work, courts must be given the power to enforce payment of the levy and mechanisms must be put in place to ensure that the money that is raised is used to support victims, is not swallowed up in administrative budgets and does not displace money that would otherwise come to victim support organisations from Government.

We therefore welcome many of the specific commitments that are in the consultation document, but we believe that more could be done and we look forward to working with ministers and other parties on getting the detail right.

However, we are clear that victims should not have to wait another five years for those good ideas to be put into action. That is why we lodged our amendment, which seeks a clear timetable for the introduction of the necessary legislation. I am grateful to the cabinet secretary for indicating at the outset that the Government is happy to accept it.

We believe that developing support for the victims of crime must be a process, not an event. Just as there is no magic solution to reoffending, so there is no one action that will make things right for those who have been abused, attacked, robbed or violated or who have lost a loved one as a result of crime, or for those forced to witness such crimes.

As Peter Morris and thousands of others will testify, early and on-going action is what victims and witnesses need to see, and that is what we call for today.

I move amendment S4M-03278.2, to insert at end:

“, and calls on the Scottish Government to set a timetable for the introduction of the necessary legislation.”

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The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-03278, in the name of Kenny MacAskill, on improving services for victims and witnesses.14:34
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Kenny MacAskill) SNP
I am grateful for the opportunity to open the debate on making justice work for victims and witnesses. Under the Scottish Government’s making justice work pr...
David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
Has the cabinet secretary estimated what revenue the proposed victim surcharge would bring in in the next few years?
Kenny MacAskill SNP
We are looking at those matters. The answer is that that will depend. I am happy to share whatever information we have to date, but the measures that I am ta...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab) Lab
Can the cabinet secretary give an assurance that the category of victims of sexual offences and domestic abuse will include victims of stalking?
Kenny MacAskill SNP
I am assuming that that will be the case, but I will confirm that for the member. Given the nature of that offence, I would be surprised if that was not the ...
Lewis Macdonald (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Scotland’s devolved Parliament has had a strong focus on support for victims and witnesses since its beginnings 13 years ago. The Labour-led devolved Governm...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Can whoever has their phone on please switch it off?
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
Presiding Officer, I apologise to the member. I thought that I had switched it off, but I am obviously incompetent with this thing.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you, Ms Grahame.
Lewis Macdonald Lab
Christine Grahame’s apology is, of course, acknowledged and accepted. I thank her for that helpful intervention, which I am sure will not cost me too much sp...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Annabel Goldie has seven minutes.14:59
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con
Thank you, Presiding Officer. My normal challenge when speaking is to ensure that audiences remain awake. I fear that, if I speak more slowly, the situation ...
David Stewart Lab
Does Annabel Goldie agree that it is inconsistent that prisoners have their own commissioner but victims do not?
Annabel Goldie Con
That certainly seems to be illogical. The proposal could—with tweaking—go a long way towards addressing the needs of victims. The situation might then be ade...
Christine Grahame SNP
It is commendable that Annabel Goldie has agreed that the cabinet secretary has taken steps in that direction, but does she agree that we need more prisoner ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Ms Goldie, I will compensate you for the intervention.
Annabel Goldie Con
Thank you very much, Presiding Officer.In response to Christine Grahame’s intervention, the building programme is, I presume, precisely what her party took i...
Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Annabel Goldie Con
I am sorry, but I am pushed for time and I have already taken an intervention.Automatic early release of prisoners is a discredited anachronism that perplexe...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We now move to the open debate. We have a fair amount of time in hand; the six minutes for speeches will be a generous six minutes, and members will be compe...
Mark McDonald (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
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Hanzala Malik (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Mark McDonald SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
Humza Yousaf.
Hanzala Malik Lab
No.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I am sorry. It is Hanzala Malik. I beg your pardon.
Hanzala Malik Lab
Thank you very much. I am not sure that Humza would appreciate that, but I certainly do. Laughter.I compliment Mark McDonald for what he said about victim su...
Mark McDonald SNP
Hanzala Malik has made an excellent point and I am sure that the Government will be acutely aware of the need for appropriate support to be given to victims ...
Lewis Macdonald Lab
Will the member take an intervention?