Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 18 April 2012
18 Apr 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Project Transmit
Almost two years ago to the day, the Parliament backed a motion that highlighted the threat that locational transmission charging poses to developing greater low-carbon power supplies and called for a review of the charging regime to take place. Two years on, we have the recommendations that Ofgem is edging towards.
The alterations to the transmission charging regime will mean that generators are charged by output rather than capacity, which could reduce costs for some renewables generators by up to 60 per cent and could lead to lower bills for consumers, but there will be no fundamental overhaul of the locational principles that underpin the system. Any move to reduce costs for renewable energy companies in Scotland is positive, but the opportunity for positive reform is in danger of being missed.
In the debate two years ago, I pointed out that it cannot be right that Scottish generators produce about 12 per cent of the UK’s electricity but pay about 40 per cent of transmission costs. The system of charging—or subsidising—producers on the basis of their location to encourage them to locate as close to the south of England as possible is an anachronism. It was designed for an era in which a small number of big power stations provided the UK’s electricity, rather than an era of renewable energy, which by its nature is inevitably more geographically dispersed.
If the only factor that was in play in designing a system of transmission charges was the cost of grid infrastructure, locational pricing might make some kind of sense. However, that is not the reality of where we are today. Scotland and the wider UK have ambitious carbon emission reduction targets to meet that require significant growth in renewable energy. Economic opportunities from developing and installing renewables technologies can also provide a significant boost to local and national economies.
Taking those factors into account and designing arrangements that facilitate a move to a low-carbon energy sector is what project transmit is supposed to be about. Transmission charges should reflect those wider priorities and avoid becoming a barrier to renewable energy development, as is currently the case. A postage stamp approach, where all generators face flat rates to use the national grid regardless of their location, is portrayed by some as being radical and undesirable. Yet it is a fact that that is the norm across Europe, with the vast majority of countries charging by how much power companies generate, rather than by where they are located. I cannot believe that it is beyond the wit of man to come up with a fairer and more equitable regime that benefits all the country.
Although limited progress towards a fairer charging regime is better than no progress at all, Ofgem’s move towards ruling out a flat rate of charge is disappointing. The case for a flat charge has not diminished. I hope that the Scottish Government will continue to make the case for such an approach and that it will have the backing of the whole Parliament in doing so.
14:41
The alterations to the transmission charging regime will mean that generators are charged by output rather than capacity, which could reduce costs for some renewables generators by up to 60 per cent and could lead to lower bills for consumers, but there will be no fundamental overhaul of the locational principles that underpin the system. Any move to reduce costs for renewable energy companies in Scotland is positive, but the opportunity for positive reform is in danger of being missed.
In the debate two years ago, I pointed out that it cannot be right that Scottish generators produce about 12 per cent of the UK’s electricity but pay about 40 per cent of transmission costs. The system of charging—or subsidising—producers on the basis of their location to encourage them to locate as close to the south of England as possible is an anachronism. It was designed for an era in which a small number of big power stations provided the UK’s electricity, rather than an era of renewable energy, which by its nature is inevitably more geographically dispersed.
If the only factor that was in play in designing a system of transmission charges was the cost of grid infrastructure, locational pricing might make some kind of sense. However, that is not the reality of where we are today. Scotland and the wider UK have ambitious carbon emission reduction targets to meet that require significant growth in renewable energy. Economic opportunities from developing and installing renewables technologies can also provide a significant boost to local and national economies.
Taking those factors into account and designing arrangements that facilitate a move to a low-carbon energy sector is what project transmit is supposed to be about. Transmission charges should reflect those wider priorities and avoid becoming a barrier to renewable energy development, as is currently the case. A postage stamp approach, where all generators face flat rates to use the national grid regardless of their location, is portrayed by some as being radical and undesirable. Yet it is a fact that that is the norm across Europe, with the vast majority of countries charging by how much power companies generate, rather than by where they are located. I cannot believe that it is beyond the wit of man to come up with a fairer and more equitable regime that benefits all the country.
Although limited progress towards a fairer charging regime is better than no progress at all, Ofgem’s move towards ruling out a flat rate of charge is disappointing. The case for a flat charge has not diminished. I hope that the Scottish Government will continue to make the case for such an approach and that it will have the backing of the whole Parliament in doing so.
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In the same item of business
The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick)
NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-02623, in the name of Fergus Ewing, on project transmit. Members who wish to take part in the debate shou...
The Minister for Energy, Enterprise and Tourism (Fergus Ewing)
SNP
This is a very important debate. Charging for access to the electricity transmission network is an area of energy policy that is rarely spoken about, but whi...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
Mr Scott, you do not have your card in your console.I will give you more time in compensation, minister.
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD)
LD
Does the minister recognise that one of the deep concerns is that large renewables businesses in other parts of the United Kingdom are arguing against any re...
Fergus Ewing
SNP
Different companies will be affected in different ways. Today, with the support of Tavish Scott and all the other parties, I hope to argue that when the Ofge...
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Con
Does the minister acknowledge that the proposals that will be announced on 4 May are just proposals? They will go out for further consultation and the consum...
Fergus Ewing
SNP
This is not the end of the process; that is Mary Scanlon’s point. Incidentally, I have deliberately not mentioned, nor have I addressed my remarks to, the Un...
Mary Scanlon
Con
I notice that the minister favours the flat-rate charge. I am shocked by that, because Ofgem’s briefing points out that such a measure would cost consumers i...
Fergus Ewing
SNP
I am not sure that I entirely understand that point. I apologise for that. The point that I was trying to make was that the Government has compromised. We th...
Ken Macintosh (Eastwood) (Lab)
Lab
I thank the Scottish Government for securing today’s debate on project transmit and the minister for his opening remarks. It is fair to say that my colleague...
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Con
I declare an interest in the debate, as my son works in the renewable energy business.The Conservatives welcome the debate on project transmit as part of the...
Fergus Ewing
SNP
To address the point that Mary Scanlon makes, I say to her that we do not accept that the costings that Ofgem gave to justify the refusal to accept the posta...
Mary Scanlon
Con
As a Highlands and Islands MSP, I certainly will not be uniting to support putting an extra £30 on the bills of people in the north of Scotland but nothing e...
Chic Brodie (South Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Mary Scanlon
Con
No. I have taken a long intervention already.Project transmit ended its consultation in February. The responses have been considered, modelling analysis has ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott)
Con
We move to the open debate, with speeches of four minutes.14:28
Rob Gibson (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP)
SNP
The problem that we have is that Scotland is caught in the trap of an organisation called Ofgem, which was created in circumstances that do not reflect the n...
John Pentland (Motherwell and Wishaw) (Lab)
Lab
I do not think that this debate will generate many headlines in tomorrow’s papers, although it should, because it is a high-voltage debate. Over £2 billion i...
Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP)
SNP
Almost two years ago to the day, the Parliament backed a motion that highlighted the threat that locational transmission charging poses to developing greater...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD)
LD
I am pleased to have an opportunity to speak in this brief but welcome debate and I am delighted that a delegation from Orkney Islands Council and the renewa...
Chic Brodie (South Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I hope that, at its meeting tomorrow, the Gas and Electricity Markets Authority—GEMA—which is the board of Ofgem, will make decisions or at least provide mor...
Mary Scanlon
Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Chic Brodie
SNP
No. I do not have enough time.I have the greatest respect and admiration for the Ofgem team in Scotland—oh that it were independent—but the notion that exist...
Anne McTaggart (Glasgow) (Lab)
Lab
I welcome the debate. I think that my fellow members will agree that the existing charging regimes are neither compatible with the needs and desires of ordin...
Stuart McMillan (West Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
We have heard how important energy transmission is and will continue to be for Scotland’s economy. It is clear that energy generation is an integral part of ...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
As other members have said, the Ofgem consultation—project transmit—has been widely welcomed, as in its current form the transmission network’s use of system...
Mike MacKenzie (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
SNP
I recently visited the European Marine Energy Centre in Orkney, which enabled me to gain a first-hand insight into the remarkable progress that it is making ...
Mary Scanlon
Con
Does the member acknowledge that the project transmit consultation ended at the end of February; that a decision will be made on 4 May; that that decision ha...
Mike MacKenzie
SNP
Sure, and I remain optimistic. I point out, however, that it is truly lamentable that it has taken this length of time to get anywhere near approaching the r...
Mary Scanlon
Con
Will the member give way?