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Meeting of the Parliament 18 April 2012

18 Apr 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Project Transmit
Ewing, Fergus SNP Inverness and Nairn Watch on SPTV
This is a very important debate. Charging for access to the electricity transmission network is an area of energy policy that is rarely spoken about, but which is absolutely central to the future of electricity generation in Scotland. What is at stake is no less than the future development of renewable energy in the Western Isles and northern isles.

Our shared hope is for renewable energy to be an engine of economic growth with the potential to deliver high-quality jobs, significant inward investment and, not least, direct and lasting benefits to our communities—especially the most fragile communities on our islands, where clean energy resources are at their most abundant. However, the current charging regime discourages deployment of renewable energy projects in those areas of finest resource.

Its having previously recognised our concerns, it is highly disappointing to find that the new proposals for charging that the Office of the Gas and Electricity Markets has made in project transmit would continue to discriminate against the islands to a marked and grotesque degree. They would see charges of £1 per kilowatt for a connection to the grid in the south-west of England, £60 for Orkney, £67 for Shetland, and £77 for the Western Isles. Ofgem said that it has “less confidence” in its proposals as they would affect the islands. Why then make those proposals? Surely that is an extraordinary way to proceed and one that begs questions about Ofgem’s commitment to the process of change.

Ofgem will give its views on project transmit to its board in the near future, but it must do so on the basis that a fairer deal for the islands is an absolute necessity. As a Parliament, we must send Ofgem a strong message that leaving the islands in the “too difficult” box is not an option. [Interruption.]

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-02623, in the name of Fergus Ewing, on project transmit. Members who wish to take part in the debate shou...
The Minister for Energy, Enterprise and Tourism (Fergus Ewing) SNP
This is a very important debate. Charging for access to the electricity transmission network is an area of energy policy that is rarely spoken about, but whi...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Mr Scott, you do not have your card in your console.I will give you more time in compensation, minister.
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
Does the minister recognise that one of the deep concerns is that large renewables businesses in other parts of the United Kingdom are arguing against any re...
Fergus Ewing SNP
Different companies will be affected in different ways. Today, with the support of Tavish Scott and all the other parties, I hope to argue that when the Ofge...
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Does the minister acknowledge that the proposals that will be announced on 4 May are just proposals? They will go out for further consultation and the consum...
Fergus Ewing SNP
This is not the end of the process; that is Mary Scanlon’s point. Incidentally, I have deliberately not mentioned, nor have I addressed my remarks to, the Un...
Mary Scanlon Con
I notice that the minister favours the flat-rate charge. I am shocked by that, because Ofgem’s briefing points out that such a measure would cost consumers i...
Fergus Ewing SNP
I am not sure that I entirely understand that point. I apologise for that. The point that I was trying to make was that the Government has compromised. We th...
Ken Macintosh (Eastwood) (Lab) Lab
I thank the Scottish Government for securing today’s debate on project transmit and the minister for his opening remarks. It is fair to say that my colleague...
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I declare an interest in the debate, as my son works in the renewable energy business.The Conservatives welcome the debate on project transmit as part of the...
Fergus Ewing SNP
To address the point that Mary Scanlon makes, I say to her that we do not accept that the costings that Ofgem gave to justify the refusal to accept the posta...
Mary Scanlon Con
As a Highlands and Islands MSP, I certainly will not be uniting to support putting an extra £30 on the bills of people in the north of Scotland but nothing e...
Chic Brodie (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Mary Scanlon Con
No. I have taken a long intervention already.Project transmit ended its consultation in February. The responses have been considered, modelling analysis has ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
We move to the open debate, with speeches of four minutes.14:28
Rob Gibson (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) SNP
The problem that we have is that Scotland is caught in the trap of an organisation called Ofgem, which was created in circumstances that do not reflect the n...
John Pentland (Motherwell and Wishaw) (Lab) Lab
I do not think that this debate will generate many headlines in tomorrow’s papers, although it should, because it is a high-voltage debate. Over £2 billion i...
Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
Almost two years ago to the day, the Parliament backed a motion that highlighted the threat that locational transmission charging poses to developing greater...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I am pleased to have an opportunity to speak in this brief but welcome debate and I am delighted that a delegation from Orkney Islands Council and the renewa...
Chic Brodie (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I hope that, at its meeting tomorrow, the Gas and Electricity Markets Authority—GEMA—which is the board of Ofgem, will make decisions or at least provide mor...
Mary Scanlon Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Chic Brodie SNP
No. I do not have enough time.I have the greatest respect and admiration for the Ofgem team in Scotland—oh that it were independent—but the notion that exist...
Anne McTaggart (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the debate. I think that my fellow members will agree that the existing charging regimes are neither compatible with the needs and desires of ordin...
Stuart McMillan (West Scotland) (SNP) SNP
We have heard how important energy transmission is and will continue to be for Scotland’s economy. It is clear that energy generation is an integral part of ...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
As other members have said, the Ofgem consultation—project transmit—has been widely welcomed, as in its current form the transmission network’s use of system...
Mike MacKenzie (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
I recently visited the European Marine Energy Centre in Orkney, which enabled me to gain a first-hand insight into the remarkable progress that it is making ...
Mary Scanlon Con
Does the member acknowledge that the project transmit consultation ended at the end of February; that a decision will be made on 4 May; that that decision ha...
Mike MacKenzie SNP
Sure, and I remain optimistic. I point out, however, that it is truly lamentable that it has taken this length of time to get anywhere near approaching the r...
Mary Scanlon Con
Will the member give way?