Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 28 March 2012
28 Mar 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Agricultural Holdings (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
A number of factors prevent new entrants from coming into the sector—I certainly do not think that there is just a single contributory factor in that regard. I will come on to that.
Ideas will no doubt come forward from many places on how to encourage new entrants and on how to encourage landlords to take on tenants and give them land. I will throw out what I hope is a constructive suggestion from the NFU in my area—North East Scotland—which is that priority be given by landlords to new starts in relation to rural priorities, as part of the Scotland rural development programme. That approach would be attractive to landlords, because there would be more likelihood of investment if they leased to a new-start tenant. The potential for a new-starts category could be looked at, as part of the wider picture.
Dave Stewart and Alex Fergusson—in intervening on Rob Gibson—raised the parity of tax regime but disparity of outcome that exists north and south of the border. There is no silver bullet. I have heard complaints from farmers in my region about the difficulty of obtaining finance from the banking sector. Where we can apply specific Scottish solutions, we should consider doing so. I look forward to that debate taking place.
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Ideas will no doubt come forward from many places on how to encourage new entrants and on how to encourage landlords to take on tenants and give them land. I will throw out what I hope is a constructive suggestion from the NFU in my area—North East Scotland—which is that priority be given by landlords to new starts in relation to rural priorities, as part of the Scotland rural development programme. That approach would be attractive to landlords, because there would be more likelihood of investment if they leased to a new-start tenant. The potential for a new-starts category could be looked at, as part of the wider picture.
Dave Stewart and Alex Fergusson—in intervening on Rob Gibson—raised the parity of tax regime but disparity of outcome that exists north and south of the border. There is no silver bullet. I have heard complaints from farmers in my region about the difficulty of obtaining finance from the banking sector. Where we can apply specific Scottish solutions, we should consider doing so. I look forward to that debate taking place.
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In the same item of business
The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick)
NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-02495, in the name of Richard Lochhead, on the Agricultural Holdings (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill. I call ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs and the Environment (Richard Lochhead)
SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer.This Government has two key policy objectives for tenant farming in Scotland: first, to ensure that tenant farmers have legislat...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
I call Rob Gibson to speak on behalf of the Rural Affairs, Climate Change and Environment Committee.14:44
Rob Gibson (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP)
SNP
There is an old Highland joke about a croft being a small piece of land surrounded entirely by large amounts of legislation. Given the amount of legislation ...
Alex Fergusson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con)
Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Rob Gibson
SNP
I will take a brief one. I have a lot to say.
Alex Fergusson
Con
Given that the tax regime is the same throughout the United Kingdom and that farm business tenancies south of the border are similar to limited duration tena...
Rob Gibson
SNP
I think that there has been enough speculation, but I suppose that, even in the member’s devo plus proposals, there might be a decision to take forward these...
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)
Lab
I am pleased to be speaking in this afternoon’s debate. As an MSP who is not on the Rural Affairs, Climate Change and Environment Committee, I thank the comm...
John Lamont (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con)
Con
The Scottish Conservatives are pleased to support the bill’s general principles. A vibrant tenanted sector is vital to Scottish farming. As a Parliament, we ...
Annabelle Ewing (Mid Scotland and Fife) (SNP)
SNP
John Lamont will obviously have read the committee’s wonderful report, which he was involved in producing. Paragraph 37, which refers to the oral evidence th...
John Lamont
Con
That was very helpful, but it does not necessarily mean that I have to agree with that view. I agree with the cabinet secretary’s view that there could be un...
Annabelle Ewing (Mid Scotland and Fife) (SNP)
SNP
Although I have the privilege of being the deputy convener of the Rural Affairs, Climate Change and Environment Committee, I speak not on behalf of the commi...
David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)
Lab
It might seem to be a great leap of imagination to compare this consensual stage 1 debate on the Agricultural Holdings (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill with the r...
Graeme Dey (Angus South) (SNP)
SNP
One issue that came through loud and clear in the committee’s inquires on the bill was that of land agents and their practices. In his evidence, NFUS chief e...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott)
Con
You must close now, please.
Graeme Dey
SNP
The TFF is looking to arbitration as a way in which to resolve that issue. I suggest that that is the way forward.15:17
Angus MacDonald (Falkirk East) (SNP)
SNP
I am pleased to speak in this stage 1 debate. Although I am not a member of the Rural Affairs, Climate Change and Environment Committee, my Economy, Energy a...
Jim Hume (South Scotland) (LD)
LD
I declare a farming interest.The provisions in the Agricultural Holdings (Scotland) Bill are overdue. It is important that trust between tenants and landlord...
Dennis Robertson (Aberdeenshire West) (SNP)
SNP
As many members have already discussed the “near relatives” provision in the bill, I will not go down that route. Instead, I want to focus not on the legisla...
David Stewart
Lab
Does the member share my view that tenants are concerned about Lord Gill’s decision in the Court of Session, which effectively says that the Scottish Parliam...
Dennis Robertson
SNP
We are moving forward and the bill and amendments to it will try to address what happened in 2003.We certainly need to consider the arbitration provisions in...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
The bill aims to create a better environment for the letting of farmland to the tenant farming sector of the agricultural industry and to encourage new entra...
Mark McDonald (North East Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
Presiding Officer, as a former member of the Rural Affairs, Climate Change and Environment Committee—although, to be frank, if you had blinked, you would hav...
David Stewart
Lab
The Court of Session overturned the Scottish Land Court in relation to the role of single farm payments and argued that they are a factor in open-market rent...
Mark McDonald
SNP
A number of factors prevent new entrants from coming into the sector—I certainly do not think that there is just a single contributory factor in that regard....
Alex Fergusson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con)
Con
This has been a welcome debate on the general principles of the Agricultural Holdings (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill.I am happy to welcome the three changes to ...
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
I am pleased to speak in this debate, which is so significant for Scotland’s vibrant agriculture sector. I thank the cabinet secretary for setting the contex...
Alex Fergusson
Con
Why does the member feel that disharmony would be a good thing in an area—that is, the TFF—where harmony exists?
Claudia Beamish
Lab
That is certainly not what I am saying. Whenever consensus is possible, it is an excellent idea. However, a range of perspectives must be taken into account,...