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Meeting of the Parliament 28 March 2012

28 Mar 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Agricultural Holdings (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Lamont, John Con Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire Watch on SPTV
That was very helpful, but it does not necessarily mean that I have to agree with that view. I agree with the cabinet secretary’s view that there could be unintended consequences. We must think very carefully before further reforming the definition.

I raised in committee the issue of the bill’s impact on the ability of landowners and prospective tenants to freely negotiate their tenancy agreements, and the impact that that has on new entrants. There is a view that the freedom to contract is being undermined. That is having an impact on the supply of land, which in turn has an impact on new entrants’ ability to come into farming.

Tenant farmers and landowners have told me that, because they are unable to negotiate freely, they are entering into short-term arrangements rather than secure tenancies. As a consequence, tenant farmers are not prepared to invest in the land and the farm steadings in the way that they would have done if they had the benefit of a more secure tenancy.

Given the drop in the number of tenancies, which we have heard about already, we should be concerned that, by further interfering with the parties’ contractual freedom, we could be indirectly undermining the parties’ ability to enter into arrangements as they wish to. I know that that is not the Government’s intention, but we must keep the unintended consequences of such changes in mind when we consider further reform.

In the brief time that is available to me, I will focus on the lack of data. In January, the Government released figures that showed a 10 per cent drop in the number of holdings with tenancy agreements between 2005 and 2011. However, it became apparent during the committee’s scrutiny of the bill that there is an issue around the lack of accurate data in a number of areas, including rented land, which makes it much more difficult to understand fully the extent of the implications of the bill or of any possible future reform.

The briefing note from Scottish Land & Estates states that there is scepticism about those numbers, which show only a snapshot of the issue and fail to take into account that there are a number of destinations for the land once the tenancy comes to an end. Some of the land is bought back by the tenant, some is taken back to be farmed by the landowner and some is split to support existing businesses and current tenants. I agree with the committee report that the Scottish Government must, as a matter of urgency, work with the relevant parties to ensure that more accurate data is collected.

The fundamental issue is that we must get the balance right between the rights of the tenant and those of the landlord. The relationship between the two parties must be based on mutual respect and confidence in the other party, rather than leave those involved fearful of letting their land or unwilling to invest in their tenanted property.

The bill will make progress in the right direction, and we are happy to support it, but we must be careful about further reform.

15:05

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-02495, in the name of Richard Lochhead, on the Agricultural Holdings (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill. I call ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs and the Environment (Richard Lochhead) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer.This Government has two key policy objectives for tenant farming in Scotland: first, to ensure that tenant farmers have legislat...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Rob Gibson to speak on behalf of the Rural Affairs, Climate Change and Environment Committee.14:44
Rob Gibson (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) SNP
There is an old Highland joke about a croft being a small piece of land surrounded entirely by large amounts of legislation. Given the amount of legislation ...
Alex Fergusson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Rob Gibson SNP
I will take a brief one. I have a lot to say.
Alex Fergusson Con
Given that the tax regime is the same throughout the United Kingdom and that farm business tenancies south of the border are similar to limited duration tena...
Rob Gibson SNP
I think that there has been enough speculation, but I suppose that, even in the member’s devo plus proposals, there might be a decision to take forward these...
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to be speaking in this afternoon’s debate. As an MSP who is not on the Rural Affairs, Climate Change and Environment Committee, I thank the comm...
John Lamont (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
The Scottish Conservatives are pleased to support the bill’s general principles. A vibrant tenanted sector is vital to Scottish farming. As a Parliament, we ...
Annabelle Ewing (Mid Scotland and Fife) (SNP) SNP
John Lamont will obviously have read the committee’s wonderful report, which he was involved in producing. Paragraph 37, which refers to the oral evidence th...
John Lamont Con
That was very helpful, but it does not necessarily mean that I have to agree with that view. I agree with the cabinet secretary’s view that there could be un...
Annabelle Ewing (Mid Scotland and Fife) (SNP) SNP
Although I have the privilege of being the deputy convener of the Rural Affairs, Climate Change and Environment Committee, I speak not on behalf of the commi...
David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
It might seem to be a great leap of imagination to compare this consensual stage 1 debate on the Agricultural Holdings (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill with the r...
Graeme Dey (Angus South) (SNP) SNP
One issue that came through loud and clear in the committee’s inquires on the bill was that of land agents and their practices. In his evidence, NFUS chief e...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
You must close now, please.
Graeme Dey SNP
The TFF is looking to arbitration as a way in which to resolve that issue. I suggest that that is the way forward.15:17
Angus MacDonald (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to speak in this stage 1 debate. Although I am not a member of the Rural Affairs, Climate Change and Environment Committee, my Economy, Energy a...
Jim Hume (South Scotland) (LD) LD
I declare a farming interest.The provisions in the Agricultural Holdings (Scotland) Bill are overdue. It is important that trust between tenants and landlord...
Dennis Robertson (Aberdeenshire West) (SNP) SNP
As many members have already discussed the “near relatives” provision in the bill, I will not go down that route. Instead, I want to focus not on the legisla...
David Stewart Lab
Does the member share my view that tenants are concerned about Lord Gill’s decision in the Court of Session, which effectively says that the Scottish Parliam...
Dennis Robertson SNP
We are moving forward and the bill and amendments to it will try to address what happened in 2003.We certainly need to consider the arbitration provisions in...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The bill aims to create a better environment for the letting of farmland to the tenant farming sector of the agricultural industry and to encourage new entra...
Mark McDonald (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Presiding Officer, as a former member of the Rural Affairs, Climate Change and Environment Committee—although, to be frank, if you had blinked, you would hav...
David Stewart Lab
The Court of Session overturned the Scottish Land Court in relation to the role of single farm payments and argued that they are a factor in open-market rent...
Mark McDonald SNP
A number of factors prevent new entrants from coming into the sector—I certainly do not think that there is just a single contributory factor in that regard....
Alex Fergusson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
This has been a welcome debate on the general principles of the Agricultural Holdings (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill.I am happy to welcome the three changes to ...
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to speak in this debate, which is so significant for Scotland’s vibrant agriculture sector. I thank the cabinet secretary for setting the contex...
Alex Fergusson Con
Why does the member feel that disharmony would be a good thing in an area—that is, the TFF—where harmony exists?
Claudia Beamish Lab
That is certainly not what I am saying. Whenever consensus is possible, it is an excellent idea. However, a range of perspectives must be taken into account,...