Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 19 January 2012
19 Jan 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Local Government Elections 2012
I will expand on the awareness campaign later in my speech, but it will be broken down into phases and will involve a partnership between the Electoral Commission and councils across Scotland.
The testing regime for the new e-counting system is important. Improvements have been made to the system since the previous count. As we all know, a manual count would take many days to conduct.
The new regime has been thoroughly considered. The system has been subjected to more rigorous testing, which should protect against the failures of the past. The testing started in January 2011 and culminated in the delivery of a bulk stress test of the system over two weeks, when more than 500,000 ballot papers were successfully scanned and counted. Councillors, the Electoral Commission, academics, the Open Rights Group, the former Local Government and Communities Committee and representatives from the press and the media have all attended tests of the system.
The system provides greater transparency. Every part of the process is fully visible to candidates and agents. Large display monitors are used to inform observers of count progress, and adjudication staff and returning officers use dual-facing monitors in executing all decisions. All 32 local authorities have committed to using the new system and we are now preparing to deliver training to the staff who will operate the system during the count.
The use of electronic counting has resulted in the capturing of a considerable amount of new data. In the 2012 election, we will publish more information than before, including detailed information on the number of preferences that were given to candidates at polling stations.
Candidates’ confidence in the system is important. We seek to build greater transparency, while of course ensuring the secrecy of the ballot. The availability of more detailed information is paramount in providing reassurance that the system has produced a correct and accurate result and in instilling transparency in the process and confidence in the election’s overall outcome. We are therefore considering the practical and legal issues that are involved in publishing full preference tracking at ward level, with a view to introducing legislation that allows the retrospective release of that data from May’s elections. That matter is being raised with the political parties panel.
Turnout might be an issue—the decoupling of elections might contribute to that. A strong and vibrant democracy relies on people from all walks of life using their vote. Councils will run their own campaigns and the Electoral Commission will run a public awareness campaign.
For the first time, the commission will have a statutory responsibility to promote public awareness at local government elections. It will run its campaign in two phases—voter registration, which will be given a clear focus, and voter information. The registration campaign will be followed by voter information, in the media and in local information booklets, that is aimed at ensuring that electors have the necessary information to cast their votes under STV. As politicians and parties, we too have a duty to reinvigorate the electorate with positive campaigning and policies that capture the imagination of the public to participate in the democracy that we cherish.
Once the votes have been cast, they will need to be counted. I know that the timing of the count has provoked a certain amount of discussion over the years. The electoral management board has issued a consultation document to seek views on when the votes in this May’s elections should be counted. I understand that the board’s convener is considering issuing a direction to local returning officers to ensure consistency in arrangements across Scotland. Regardless of the consultation’s outcome, the political parties panel considers that a consistent approach is important.
Over the past five years, the Parliament has embraced the Gould recommendations with a high degree of consensus. We may legitimately disagree on political matters, but we have worked together to implement the largely administrative recommendations that fall within the Parliament’s powers. However, there is one key recommendation on which no action has been taken: the full devolution of the Scottish Parliament and local government elections. It is absurd that the Parliament is not responsible for the election of its members and that we are unable to give 16 and 17-year-olds their democratic right to vote, even when that is the will of the Parliament.
The testing regime for the new e-counting system is important. Improvements have been made to the system since the previous count. As we all know, a manual count would take many days to conduct.
The new regime has been thoroughly considered. The system has been subjected to more rigorous testing, which should protect against the failures of the past. The testing started in January 2011 and culminated in the delivery of a bulk stress test of the system over two weeks, when more than 500,000 ballot papers were successfully scanned and counted. Councillors, the Electoral Commission, academics, the Open Rights Group, the former Local Government and Communities Committee and representatives from the press and the media have all attended tests of the system.
The system provides greater transparency. Every part of the process is fully visible to candidates and agents. Large display monitors are used to inform observers of count progress, and adjudication staff and returning officers use dual-facing monitors in executing all decisions. All 32 local authorities have committed to using the new system and we are now preparing to deliver training to the staff who will operate the system during the count.
The use of electronic counting has resulted in the capturing of a considerable amount of new data. In the 2012 election, we will publish more information than before, including detailed information on the number of preferences that were given to candidates at polling stations.
Candidates’ confidence in the system is important. We seek to build greater transparency, while of course ensuring the secrecy of the ballot. The availability of more detailed information is paramount in providing reassurance that the system has produced a correct and accurate result and in instilling transparency in the process and confidence in the election’s overall outcome. We are therefore considering the practical and legal issues that are involved in publishing full preference tracking at ward level, with a view to introducing legislation that allows the retrospective release of that data from May’s elections. That matter is being raised with the political parties panel.
Turnout might be an issue—the decoupling of elections might contribute to that. A strong and vibrant democracy relies on people from all walks of life using their vote. Councils will run their own campaigns and the Electoral Commission will run a public awareness campaign.
For the first time, the commission will have a statutory responsibility to promote public awareness at local government elections. It will run its campaign in two phases—voter registration, which will be given a clear focus, and voter information. The registration campaign will be followed by voter information, in the media and in local information booklets, that is aimed at ensuring that electors have the necessary information to cast their votes under STV. As politicians and parties, we too have a duty to reinvigorate the electorate with positive campaigning and policies that capture the imagination of the public to participate in the democracy that we cherish.
Once the votes have been cast, they will need to be counted. I know that the timing of the count has provoked a certain amount of discussion over the years. The electoral management board has issued a consultation document to seek views on when the votes in this May’s elections should be counted. I understand that the board’s convener is considering issuing a direction to local returning officers to ensure consistency in arrangements across Scotland. Regardless of the consultation’s outcome, the political parties panel considers that a consistent approach is important.
Over the past five years, the Parliament has embraced the Gould recommendations with a high degree of consensus. We may legitimately disagree on political matters, but we have worked together to implement the largely administrative recommendations that fall within the Parliament’s powers. However, there is one key recommendation on which no action has been taken: the full devolution of the Scottish Parliament and local government elections. It is absurd that the Parliament is not responsible for the election of its members and that we are unable to give 16 and 17-year-olds their democratic right to vote, even when that is the will of the Parliament.
In the same item of business
The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick)
NPA
Good morning. The first item of business is a debate on motion S4M-01741, in the name of Derek Mackay, on the local government elections in 2012. I indicate ...
The Minister for Local Government and Planning (Derek Mackay)
SNP
It is a privilege to lead my first debate as Minister for Local Government and Planning on the subject of local government elections. This is my first opport...
James Kelly (Rutherglen) (Lab)
Lab
The minister acknowledged earlier that awareness of the single transferable vote system is low and said that the electoral management board would work with r...
Derek Mackay
SNP
I will expand on the awareness campaign later in my speech, but it will be broken down into phases and will involve a partnership between the Electoral Commi...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green)
Green
Is the minister as surprised as I was that, when the Secretary of State for Scotland spoke just a couple of weeks ago in the House of Commons, he seemed to b...
Derek Mackay
SNP
I was as surprised as Patrick Harvie was that the secretary of state did not know the legal competence that he has in that regard, which the Scottish Parliam...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
I call Sarah Boyack to speak to and move amendment S4M-01741.2. She has a generous 10 minutes.09:31
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab)
Lab
I have prepared to speak for eight minutes, but my speech will take 10 minutes easily.I thank the minister for his warm welcome. I was absolutely delighted w...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP)
SNP
I agree with Sarah Boyack that registration is a problem. Having been a member of Glasgow City Council, I must give the council its due as it has done a lot ...
Sarah Boyack
Lab
Yes—part of the issue is that we must go round and talk to people rather than just waiting until the elections. The way that it is done at present is that a ...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con)
Con
I welcome the motion’s emphasis on local democracy in general and on this year’s local government elections in particular. There is no doubt that local democ...
John Mason
SNP
Will the member give way on that point?
The Presiding Officer
NPA
Mr Mason, if you are going to make an intervention, will you stand up before you do it?
John Mason
SNP
My apologies—I learned bad lessons in another place.Does Margaret Mitchell accept that the lack of understanding of STV has been overstated? There were fewer...
Margaret Mitchell
Con
That certainly is not my experience. From talking to the electorate, I find that there is still huge confusion about the STV system and multimember wards.Alt...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)
SNP
Ms Boyack said that we should do everything possible to get folk out to vote. Over the years, I have found that many young people in fifth and sixth year at ...
Margaret Mitchell
Con
I am coming to my main point, which is that while some people would feel competent to vote and would be interested enough to take that option, many others wo...
Dennis Robertson (Aberdeenshire West) (SNP)
SNP
Will the member take an intervention on that point?
Margaret Mitchell
Con
If Mr Robertson does not mind, I would like to make some progress.As for helping to increase participation and turnout, according to the same Electoral Commi...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
I now call George Adam to be followed by Mark Griffin. You have a generous seven minutes, Mr Adam, if you take interventions.09:53
George Adam (Paisley) (SNP)
SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. As the room is full of standing councillors from Scottish local government, you might regret giving them the freedom to discuss...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)
Lab
Does George Adam agree that having “Alex Salmond for First Minister” on the ballot paper was designed to cause the electorate confusion?
George Adam
SNP
The confusion was not helped by the fact that there were so many different ballot papers, the arrangements were rushed through and there was very little publ...
Margaret Mitchell
Con
Does George Adam accept that there is a certain hypocrisy and inconsistency in suggesting that 16 and 17-year-olds are responsible enough to vote but that pe...
George Adam
SNP
There has always been a level of hypocrisy in 16 and 17-year-olds being able to join the Army and fight for their country but not being able to vote on the G...
James Kelly
Lab
The budget that the Parliament will consider next week will contain £700 million of cuts to local government over the next three years. Does George Adam cons...
George Adam
SNP
James Kelly is aware that circumstances have changed and that we live in extremely difficult times. We have a recession, which was created by Labour and has ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott)
Con
You must close, please.
George Adam
SNP
I have taken three interventions, Presiding Officer. I was told that I had some latitude.
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
You have 20 seconds.